Cult Busters: Israel, Hamas, America, and social media

 

    The Some proposed solutions to the war in Palestine, which surely would please Melchizedek and Father Abraham  post introduced a fellow from my class at Crestline Elementary School in the “poor side” of Mountain Brook, aka The Tiny Kingdom. I had not seen or heard from him since then. 

    Here is our private message conversation after I published his proposal for ending the war in Palestine.

Peter
One must wonder how many decades people will cling to the vision of a two-state solution for the Israelis and the Palestinians while the facts on the ground move continually in the other direction. Nor is a one-state solution any more plausible. Time for a new idea. The fundamental problem for Israel and the Palestinians is that there are 5 million stateless Palestinians and Israel will never accept them as citizens because they are not Jewish. Historically no Arab country has welcomed them either. 

In the past month, both Jordan and Egypt have repeatedly declared that their borders would not be opened to receive even one Palestinian—not as a way to deny humanitarian assistance to Palestinians under attack but rather as a countermove to deny Israel the opportunity to empty the West Bank and Gaza of as many Palestinians as possible. Jordan’s fears are not unfounded, and its redline of refusing to admit Palestinians remains unlikely to change for several reasons.

https://carnegieendowment.org/2023/11/21/jordan-s-redline-on-admitting-palestinians-is-unlikely-to-change-pub-91077 

Without a country, the Palestinians will never be free. I see one possible solution: the world should buy a country for the Palestinians. It would not be cheap. Rebuilding Gaza after Israel destroys it will also not be cheap, but the world will pay for it. Here is my proposal. The idea when first proposed was to buy a less-developed part of Sudan bordering Egypt with a size close to that of Israel. A refinement is to negotiate a deal with the micronation self-proclaimed as the "Islamic Republic of Hala’ib Triangle". This entity covers 7,950 square miles (20,580 sq km), comparable to the size of Israel (8,630 sq mi). 

https://micronations.wiki/wiki/Islamic_Republic_of_Hala%27ib_Triangle 

Set aside the claims of Sudan and Egypt for this area, and focus on justice for the current inhabitants which number about 1500. I'm proposing a payment of $1 million US per resident, infants included. The nominal cost would be $1.5 billion, about the cost of 2 to 3 weeks of bombs to be dropped on the Gazans. Also a grant of ten acres of their choosing per resident. Hala'ib lies between Sudan and Egypt and borders the Red Sea to the east. I believe the best approach is that the current residents, mostly Bedouins, would have citizenship in the new country along with the Palestinians. They would be suddenly rich, of course, which would not be a new phenomenom for Bedouins. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/entertainment/books/1982/01/31/saudi-arabiafrom-bedouins-to-oil-barons/bef09597-7dd2-481c-9a85-1041320e0a63/ 

The 1500 rich Bedouins and the five million not-rich Palestinians would be the citizens of the new country which might be called the Hala'ib-Palestine Alliance. Hala'ib-Palestine would be far enough away from Israel that continued hostilities would be unlikely in addition to being pointless. Many persons claim that the Palestinians would never accept the idea of moving away from the birthplace of Islam. Not living in the birthplace of Islam does not seem to be a problem for the rest of the nearly 2 billion Muslims. A quick poll of the Palestinans in between bombardments and sniper attacks could resolve that question. There would need to be a threshold for final approval on both the Hala'ib and the Palestinian sides.

Of course a proposal which looks very good to those directly involved will probably be repugnant to Sudan and Egypt, so those countries must be dealt with. One possibility: offer to redirect the aid that the US gives Israel (approximately $4 billion per year) for ten years: $2 billion per year to Sudan, and the same for Egypt. Set a one-year deadline for agreement: if either country does not agree, all of the money goes to the other country. Regardless, the establishment of the new country would proceed under UN and US protection.The new country should include a nature preserve for the Nubian wild ass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubian_wild_ass 

t should also include a large interior area which is reserved for nomadic occupation only. In addition a strip of land one mile thick along the Red Sea plus land for an airport and various parcels for government installations should be under permanent government control. The oceanfront area could be leased for resort development. The land remaining after the grants to the original Hala'ib residents would be divied up among the Palestinians. Enlist a coalition of nations to build a new Palestine in the new country. The US can contribute the money it would otherwise spend replacing the buildings and infrastructure in Gaza that Israel has turned into rubble. Israel can rebuild what it has destroyed in Gaza.

SB
I will say this one more time. What is going on in Palestine is a religious war, and religious fanatics are driving it, and have driven it for a very long time. I tell you this again, because I have dealt with religious fanatics for a very long time, and they are deranged and cannot be reasoned with. You see how nuts some people I engage at Chris Hedges and Caitlin Johnstone’s substacks are. They are fanatics. Certain they are right. No chance of thinking they are wrong. That said, I encourage you to present your proposal into both of those forums, yourself, and into any other forums in which you participate, and get it to President Biden, if you can, and to the the top dogs in the US Senate and House of Representatives, if you can, and to Al Jazeera, maybe they will publish it, which would be terrific. And to NPR All Things Considered, and to Fareed Zakaria at CNN, and Anderson Cooper and Erin Burnett at CNN.

Peter
Wow! Well, I updated Caitlin. Paso a paso.

SB
This is your project, and it’s a good project, and I think you need to present it everywhere you can, after you see how Caitlin’s place responds to it, which might help you tone it up again.

Peter
I'll certainly try to keep on improving, and looking for new places to post it.
Pretty crazy folks over at Caitlin's blog. They think the Israelis are going to move somewhere else.

SB
Here’s my take on them, which is not meant to diminish what Israel is doing, which is terrible. Caitlin and most of her followers were terribly abused in childhood. They identify with the people of Gaza, and with the Palestines generally, as if they are the people of Gaza, and the Palestinians. Hamas are the protective the good parents they never had growing up. Thus, it is not possible for them to entertain even a sliver of thought that Hamas has done this to them to gain favor in the world and for Israel to lose favor.

Peter
Certainly possible. It's more in the psychological realm than I normally go. I see a lynch mob. Lynch mobs are seldom angry about nothing. The focus of their anger has transgressed in someway, and for sure Israel has transgressed. Mobs are not interested in moderation. They have one goal in mind and that is to exact justice as they see it as quickly as possible. Calm voices and seeing both sides are not appreciated.
Mobs make all of the members feel powerful. Almost all humans enjoy feeling powerful.

SB
Lynch mob is a good assessment, but in this case, the people leading Israel and IDF need to be lynched. So I give Caitlin and her followers attaboys for that. But why can’t they see the whole picture? That brings in their psychology. That’s the last thing they want to hear or deal with, and if I drop that on them, I would not be surprised if they try to lynch me.

Peter
I understand these motivations, they don't bother me particularly. What dismays me about Caitlin's group so many like it is the attachment to unreality. They don't like my proposal because the Palestinians have to move. They want the Israelis to move. Well a case could be made that that would be more just, but it's a complete fantasy. They imagine some combination of forces will impel this to happen. I ED what if Israel says that have any NATO country attacks them they will respond with nuclear missiles. The answer was "return fire". So they would torch the world and the Palestinians from their mob mentality.
Some of them immediately turned on you and me as well. I'm not slow to block the worst cases.

SB
Israel definitely will use it nukes, if it feels sufficiently threatened, and I have made that comment several times in Hedges and Caitlin's forums, and it doesn’t faze them. Here’s the deal, though, When I see someone obsessing over something going on a long way from where they are, as if their very lives are at risk, too, then that’s the tip-off that they identify with the victims, whose plight punches every one of their internal wounded buttons, and they respond accordingly.

Peter
Thumbs up

SB
This is what Hamas did to Israel on Oct 7. Israel went insane. Here we are, and Hamas is pleased, it got what it wanted to get.

Peter
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Peter
Some day the historians will see Oct 7 as a brilliant stroke. I think we are going to see some real change now, which has not happened in 75 years.

SB
Psychiatry and Psychology call what the remote obsessors are doing, projection. I don’t yet see how real change is possible. Hamas gambled the entire farm that Israel’s reaction would turn the entire world against it, but Hamas did not factor in America, and especially, the American right, but even Joe Biden is furious with Hamas, but he does not really know why. Israel is sitting on huge stockpiles of American weapons and munitions, put there by America for its own military, but Israel controls the warehouses and is drawing down the inventory to pursue this war. Biden was worried the war In Gaza would expand, and it is doing that. Biden beefed up the US Naval presence there, and now look what’s going on in the Red Sea. And at the Lebanon border. We soon could be in WW III. Thank you, Hamas, a brilliant strategy. Thank you, Israel. Thank you, President Biden, Donald Trump, the American Christians and Jews for Israel. Well, that would be serous change. 

Peter
You blame both sides and I don't blame either side! I'm probably angrier with Israel, but that is emotion, not rationality. All this leaves you and I in a place where we can communicate.
America and Israel are becoming isolated. I don't think there is any other country in the world where the general public supports the US and Israel.

SB
I blame both sides, because both sides contributed to where we are now. I blame America, because it should have kept its nose out of Palestine and the Middle East altogether. I have been around the Globe twice, and have traveled in Europe and the Caribbean, and Americans, in the main, don’t know, and don’t care, how the rest of the world views America. America really needs to turn inward and look at itself in the mirror for a good while. But projection and finger pointing are so much more comfortable and fun and exciting. Joe Biden sucks. His son sucks. The Democrats remind me of the mythical Fulakwi tribe, forever getting lost and gathering in a circle and sitting down and holding hands and closing their eyes and chanting, “Where the fuck are we? Where the fuck are we?" Donald Trump and the MAGAs and the Republican Party and the Christian right Supreme Court Justices are something else entirely. They are America’s blossoming version of The Third Reich.

Peter
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SB
Be thankful you are able to live in the Dominican Republic. My younger friend, who does the tech work for my books and our podcast told me last night that he thinks he will be happier, and safer, living somewhere else, but other countries, including Mexico, don’t want any more American ex pats.

Peter
Most people are friendly to me here.

SB
I’m talking about the governments of other countries, they don’t want more American ex pats. I spent a lot time on Tortola and Dominica in the Caribbean, in he latter 1990s. Loved it. I no longer have a passport, and am not well enough to leave America anyway. I’m gonna go down with the ship. I worry for my children and their families.

Peter
Yes

Peter
My health is remarkably good. I haven't been to a doctor in at least 5 years probably longer..

SB
I’m jealous of your good health, and also happy for you.
Part of our last podcast is about Trump’s chief of staff Mark Meadows. My tech friend  gathered enough evidence to persuade the Feds to prosecute Meadows for faking where he lived so he could run for Congress there. Some Rumble clients learned of the podcast and cut out clips of it they especially didn’t like and posted the clips at Rumble and Rumble took the clips down. Rumble is very right wing. You Tube never gave us a link for that podcast. Lots of people who piss off Trump start receiving death threats, is what I’m getting at. So it won’t surprise me if I am made extinct. That’s why viewers of he podcast can see only me, and why Bob is not Bob’s real name.

Peter
My memory is terrible, but it doesn't seem to be getting a lot worse. I'm actually learning tricks such as when I lay something down I try to visualize it in my praying for about 10 seconds after I let go of it. If I do that I can pretty much remember where I put it.
In my brain
I hope the best for you. Of course both of us have already beaten the averages.

SB
Lucky you, when I had vertigo about a year ago, and an ER did an MRI to see if I had a stroke (no), they called the government, because they had never seen anything like my brain. I snuck out of there and changed back into my usual shape and drove home.

Peter
Lol

SB
https://tinykingdomblacksheep.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-more-books-he-writes-ant-longer-he.html

"Grandfossil’s tales to his grandchildren, a different sort of last will and testament"

Peter
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I received no useful feedback at Caitlin's substack. Sad.

SB

Cults, or if you wish, religions, are not open to change, or to anything that challenges their views.

Peter

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sloanbashinsky@yahoo.com

Some proposed solutions to the war in Palestine, which surely would please Melchizedek and Father Abraham

                                    

Melchizedek star

    Melchizedek is introduced in the Book of Genesis in the Christian Bible, which was derived from the Jewish Scriptures. Genesis describes a supernatural being, Melchizedek, who took human form as the King of Salem (Peace). Abraham had dealings with Melchizedek. Abraham’s wife Sarah bore Isaac, whose bloodline became the Israelites, whose blood brought forth Jesus and Christianity. Sarah's slave Hagar received Abraham’s seed, with Sarah’s permission, and Hagar bore Ishmael, whose bloodline produced Mohammed and Islam. The Star David actually is the universal symbol for Melchizedek.

    I was waiting for a good moment to drop someone else's suggested solution for the Palestine war into retired war correspondent turned armchair commentator Chris Hedges’ Newsletter, to which I am a paid subscriber. That moment came the day before yesterday, when this arrived in my email account.

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     Here is what I dropped, followed by other people’s responses and my responses to them.

Sloan Bashinsky

Chris, I would like to hear your and your readers' views of this below, written by someone I attended grammar school with and had not seen or heard from until he subscribed to my substack the other day.

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One must wonder how many decades people will cling to the vision of a two-state solution for the Israelis and the Palestinians while the facts on the ground move continually in the other direction. Nor is a one-state solution any more plausible. Time for a new idea. 

The fundamental problem for Israel and the Palestinians is that there are 5 million stateless Palestinians and Israel will never accept them as citizens because they are not Jewish. Without a country, the Palestinians will never be free. I see one possible solution: the world should buy a country for the Palestinians. 

It would not be cheap. Rebuilding Gaza after Israel destroys it will also not be cheap, but the world will pay for it. Here is my proposal. 

Buy a poorly developed part of Sudan bordering Egypt with a size roughly equivalent to Israel. Include an outlet to the Red Sea. 

Sudan is located in the same general part of the world as Gaza but far enough away from Israel to make continued hostilities unlikely. The no-longer-stateless Palestinians would not try to launch rockets across Egypt. 

An offer sufficiently attractive to Sudan to conclude such a deal would need to be explored. 

One possibility: Offer to permanently redirect the aid that the US gives Israel (approximately $4 billion per year) and give it to Sudan instead. Sudan is one of the poorest countries in the world with a GDP of approximately $34 billion. Permanent aid of $4 billion per year would make a huge difference.

Enlist a coalition of nations to build a new Palestine in the purchased area. The US can contribute the money it would otherwise spend replacing all the buildings and infrastructure in Gaza that Israel has turned into rubble. Israel can rebuild Gaza. 

 

nosey parker

You could do that but since Israelis are the colonialists I suggest they go to the Sudan and leave Palestinians alone. You sound as eager as the Israelis to dispossess the Palestinians of their homeland. WTF? The Israelis need to go.

OR the Israelis could go to Georgia, THEIR ancestral homeland. 

 

Phil Kind Man 

 

Good idea with one modification, the Jewish settlers should be sent to Sudan, not the Palestinians, who are the modern original residents of Palestine! It makes more sense to establish a new Israel in Sudan, than it is to establish a new Palestine in Sudan! 

 

Sloan Bashinsky

My sentiments also. Then, Islam would control Palestine, the so-called holy land, and hopefully they welcome Christian visitors and their money. I imagine they would. As things now stand, the tourism industry there is dead, and that’s a big hit for that area. 

 

Julio Santos 

 

My suggestion is "enlist a coalition of nations" which will demand the granting of the Palestinian statehood and the end of the occupation and blockade of their land. This will be less expensive for the whole world than the continuous support that USA gives to Israel and would be fair to both Israel and Palestine as well as for their diasporas. And let the war criminals to be judged and sentenced. 

Sloan Bashinsky

Demand? Israel will just roll over? I doubt it. 

Landru 

 

Solutions. Many have including myself. It's an easy problem to solve. Give the Palestinians right of return. One person, one vote and equal rights for all. That isn't hard to understand or implement. People living in peace wow, what a hard concept to understand.

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

I agree, but how to bring that off? 

 

Landru
Without U.S. aid israel falls as a functioning gov. See how quickly human rights are restored. Not special rights, equal rights for all. The world is ending israel slowly now not wanting to support Genocide. We could do nothing and nothing changes OR we can do the simple things that change everything.

Sloan Bashinsky 

I agree, but since I live in a part of America controlled by the Christian and conservative right, Alabama, I know they will not stand for a president or Congress that abandons Israel to Islam. So, elsewhere in this thread, including my initial comment, are other suggested solutions, which I imagine would meet Father Abraham and Melchizedek’s approval. In Genesis, Abraham had dealings with a supernatural being that had taken human form, Melchizedek, aka the King of Salem (Peace). Few today know that the “Star of David” actually is the universal symbol of Melchizedek, an angelic order. 

 

Jon Carver 

 

Here comes Sloan the bigot with his relocation Progrom for the Jew God after Jews in Israel have stolen their homes and families. Sloan is a great example of Jewish bigotry. He doesn't even see what a shit head he is. Sloan is a kind of Nazi, actually, and not a deep thinker. Like relocation isn't always a part of genocide, you fucked up, bigoted Jewish moron supremacist. Fuck Judaic bigots! 

 

Marcia Z Bookstein 

 

Your comment sounds so utterly anti-Semitic, Jon, that it's no wonder Jews are afraid for their lives. Yes, anti-Semitic. Would there even have been an Israel if people hadn't felt guilt about not allowing Jewish refugees from Europe into their countries? They were turned away from the US, and everywhere north and south of this country. They returned by ship to be butchered by Nazis. Where are we guaranteed to be safe? Nowhere except Israel. Murder and death taught us that. It sounds to me like you would like all of us to die. That would solve everything, wouldn't it? You believe that we are all that awful? If there were no Jews, would the Muslims then go after the Christians? Your speech does nothing to help.  

 

Jon Carver 

 

Hey Marcia, please don't put words in my mouth. And not calling for anyone's death. Anti-semiticism is what Jews today in Israel are doing to their semitic cousins in Gaza, today and for the past 50 plus years in their genocide for the Covenant with Abraham, no? My issue is with why Jews like Tony Blinken want more dead kids. I believe, since he identifies as Jewish that he believes in the Covenant of Abraham. Then when I study the Torah I find that it's incredibly xenophobic, Jewish Supremacist and celebrates multiple acts of genocidal ethnic cleansings as "Holocausts for Yaweh" the only spiritual entity Jews are allowed to acknowledge. Anyway, Jews are just people like everyone else. I despise the Abrahamic Ideology as it's so clearly Supremacism, the same way I despise the Supremacism of Nazis and the Proud Boys. I don't discriminate between bigots doing bigotry as Jewish people are today in Gaza and the West Bank. Why can't y'all share, I'm supportive of a Jewish homeland in Israel, but definitely not by slaughtering and mutilating children to get there.  

 

Sloan Bashinsky

If you read my comment, Jon, you know I asked for feedback about what someone else had written, which I included in my comment. 
I told the fellow who made the proposal that I felt Israel should move to The Sudan, but if that happened, who would rebuild Gaza? You. Caitlin Johnstone? Chris Hedges? The UN? Hamas? Hezbollah? ISIS? Iran? Certainly not America or Israel.
To date, I have yet to see Caitlin, or any of her followers, or Chris Hedges, or any of his followers, offer a solution to the Israel-Palestine horror show, other than Israel ceases to exist, which is the stated goal of Hamas’s charter.

I think the odds of getting Israel to agree to cease to exist are below zero. So, Jon, perhaps you will suggest a solution that has at least a zero chance of Israel and its Palestine adversaries accepting?

I have proposed here, and at Caitlin’s place, that America offer all Israelis sanctuary in America, to atone for not doing that after WWII, and I got no amens. I doubt the Israelis would go for it, and I doubt America would go for it, either.

I keep wondering if you, Jon, and many others who lay all the blame on Israel and America, were so abused when they were children, that they are unable to consider that what’s going on in Gaza punches every last one of their wounded and abused little child buttons, so that they simply cannot see Hamas tricked Israel into doing the very thing Hamas wants Israel to do in Gaza, and in that way, Hamas put every person in Gaza at mortal risk.

If I were America's President, I would do what in some circles is called a culture jam, and in other circles is called a systems jump. I would declassify all U.S. Government’s UFO files, hoping that would so fuck up every stupid war and disagreement going on everywhere, that maybe humanity would come to its senses, or at least stop fucking over other humans beings, and they start trying to save humans from themselves and what they perceive to be the, yes, the sum of all their fears, over which they have zero control, which might be worse fear for them than having zero control over God by whatever name they tried many times to remake in their own image and boss around. 

 

Jon Carver 

 

Hi Sloan, not sure if your characterization of Caitlin or Chris is accurate, but that aside, you and your "friend" who floated ideas of relocating Palestinians are doing bigotry. Have you heard of the Trail of Tears. Relocation is a prime element of genocide. It's called forced removal. Personally, I believe in a Jewish right of return to Israel after 2000 or so years of Diaspora following the sacking of the Second Temple of Solomon by Titus. I also believe that Palestinians have a right to live, as they have for generations, in their homeland in Israel. The problem that I see is that Jewish Supremacy which is systemic to Judaic cultural settings and Judaic thinkers means Daddy Jew knows what's best for the Palestinians you all have killed regularly and systematically for years . Some of the worst examples of bigoted speech I've ever heard came from the mouths of Jewish Liberals slurring Arabs, the descendants of Ishmael, and your cousins. The problem as I see it is Jewish Bigotry coming from the celebration of the Holocausts that xenophobic Jews bring upon the Canaanites in the Torah. Jews need to recognize the immense cultural Supremacism of saying there is only on God and he's Jewish. As a Goy ( fucking pig supremacist slur Jew word that all Jews use, basically) I have to say fuck Jewish Supremacist Bigots and their genocidal shit thinking. Please tell that to your genocidal Jewish "friend" that came up with that shitty, bigoted, Palestinian Relocation Progrom. Tell him that's what the Goy said. Please let him know that is what I think of his bigoted Jewish thinking. Thanks. Fuck the Jew God! 

 

Marcia Z Bookstein 

 

The descendents of Ishmael are our half brothers and sisters. Not our cousins. Same father, different mother. 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

Correct. 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

He is not my friend, Jon, I haven’t seen or spoken with him him since grammar school. He is not Jewish. He is does not care for my view of Hamas. He understands Israel will never leave Palestine voluntarily. That said, I pretty much agree with your assessments and beliefs stated in your comment, and I wish you would propose a solution, but your don’t, and perhaps that’s because Palestine is way beyond FUBAR and there is no solution. Unless, God, or something, steps in and does something truly biblical that maybe nobody in Palestine likes? So that every one there, and at Chris Hedgs’s and Caitlin Johnstone’s places, all want to tell God to fuck himself? Or herself? Or itself? 

Jon Carver

The solution is that Jews in Israel learn to share, make reparations for 50 plus years of ethnic cleansing in Palestine, and hang their heads in shame for their and their religious system's systemic lack of humanity. LEARN TO SHARE ISRAEL WITH THE CHILDREN OF ISHMAEL. I'd also like to encourage you to simply stop being Jewish and to reject Judaic theology and become a person instead of associating yourself with the Ethnic Supremacists, the Proud Boys of Judah.  

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

I’m not Jewish, Jon. I used to be a Christian. I think the creation of the state of Israel was a colossal blunder. I wish President Biden had abandoned Israel after he saw what IDF was doing in Gaza. Where you and I never agreed is I put half of It on Hamas, starting with October 7. Because Hamas got Israel to do precisely what Hamas wanted Israel to do. You may care about the Gaza people, but Hamas does not. All Hamas cares about is trying to destroy Israel. That’s why Hamas was created. Its charter said so. Its “revised” charter says so in different language, all glory to Allah, Islam is a peaceful religion. Read it for yourself. Hell, Islam doesn’t even get along with itself. 

 

Jon Carver 

 

All the Abrahamists kill for God, that's a huge part of the problem. That's why I'm opposed to Abrahamism and Abrahamic systems of hierarchical bigotry and castes. Hamas is desperate. They made a desperate move to provoke Israel and their sycophants in the US government. How do you oppose the genocidal actions of Judaism in Israel since the 1920s or so? Hamas did what it had to do and seems to be winning world opinion wars, along with the Houthis in the Red Sea, the only folks actively trying to intervene by destroying property and disrupting Capitalist trade without, yet, harming a person. What would you have done on October 7th if you were in Hamas' position in the Concentration Camp of Gaza? 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

If I were Hamas, would have cared too much for human life, especially in Gaza, to try to provoke Israel on October 7 to level Gaza and kill a lot of unarmed civilians, in pursuit of trying to kill me.  

 

Jon Carver 

 

"Our Religions must become subject to an overwhelming loyalty to humankind as a whole." MLKJ. Jews, Christians and Capitalists are the only faith based religious groups I know that so clearly lack the loyalty to humankind that King spoke so eloquently about. 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

Dr. King was spot on. Interesting, you classify capitalism as a religion, which it is :) 

 

Jon Carver 

 

It's the 4th (blind) faith based Abrahamic religion. Calvinist Capitalist Wealth Accumulators. Their concepts come through Protestantism directly from Calvinist readings of the Torah, which says God rewards the wealthy with riches because of their superior virtues ( snort)😂 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

That’s actually hilarious genealogy, the way you present it. 

 

Marcia Z Bookstein

First, I'm in awe of your response to Jon. I'm grateful for your example of grace and patience.

And I agree that there is no solution. I have my own idea, though: as a student of comedy improv, I think the Israeli side and the Palesitian side should get together. I like the idea of the King David Hotel. (That's where my uncle was born!) There you would have mediators, negotiators, psychologists, comedians (both Jewish and Palestinian--they have truly honed their craft!) and comedy improv teachers. Each Israeli would play the part of a Palestinian, and vice versa. This is how you truly understand someone. I've done it and it's remarkable. (I played a right-winger in the International Space Station.) Laughter is healing, and, yes, a good comedian can make anything funny. It's a great way to connect. Also, have the best Halal food, which is more Kosher than Kosher, and no wine. (Yeah, wine makes people weird. Just use laughter to break the ice. It's also against Islamic rules I believe.) And then just talk. And talk and talk. Maybe a few hundred years or so. I want to be there! At least, while people are talking, they aren't killing each other. There. Solved. 

 

Sloan Bashinsky

From God’s mouth to your ear. Thank you. 

While I think Chris Hedges has not understood Hamas’s strategy for October 7, I also think Chris is more than well enough known and respected as a war correspondent, who put his own life on the line many times in red hot war zones, and he was friends of Hamas’s founder, and he knows that region and its peoples, and I think he is the ideal person to go there, representing himself and concern for all people, and he tries to sit down with both sides, and speak them as a man who has been through the flames of hell, and nudge and cajole them to give serious thought to setting side their religious and other differences, and embracing they are all children of Father Abraham, and its time to turn their swords into plowshares, because anything else simply is intolerable for all the people in that region.

Palestine is the epicenter of three huge religions. Let them turn it into a peaceful, beautiful holy shrine for all three religions. Let the members those religions come there from all over the world, with their money, to celebrate their religions' history and to worship and to get to know their brothers and sisters descended from Abraham, Sarah and Hagar. That would surely please God. I can imagine Chris Hedges being Allah's emissary and mediator for that unfolding. But he has to go in neutral. He has to be ready and willing to be the adult in the room, because both sides have contributed to this horrible mess, and only they can fix it. 

You go with Chris, as the court jester, the comedian, the sage fool who knows tears and love like perhaps no other. You and Christ, er, Chris, tag team them, help them shriek, writhe, cry and laugh. 

sloanbashinsky@yahoo.com

What Israel, Hamas, America and the rest of humanity need is a massive estrogen injection

 

    This morning, received in my email yet another Chris Hedges beat up on Israel and give Hamas a free pass report, which you can read and watch by opening the link:

The Chris Hedges Report with Miko Peled, the son of an Israeli general who served in the Special Forces in the Israeli army, on the racist indoctrination and militarization of Israeli society.

The Israeli army, known as the Israel Defense Forces or IDF, is integral to understanding Israeli society. Nearly all Israelis do three years of military service. Most men continue to serve in the reserves until middle age. Its generals often retire to occupy senior positions in government an industry. The dominance of the military in Israeli society helps explains why war, militaristic nationalism and violence are so deeply embedded in Zionist ideology.

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the-chris-hedges-report-with-miko

    I posted this comment, and the fun began😎.

Sloan’s Newsletter
Three nights before 9/11, a familiar voice asked me in my sleep, “Will you make a prayer for a Divine Intervention for all of humanity?” I woke up, wondering what that was about, and made the prayer. On 9/11, I understood what it was about. My lady friend at the time and I hoped America would not get into another foreign war it could not win. A few days later, as I walked out of a US Post Office, the familiar voice said “America needs to get out of the Middle East altogether and let Islam and Israel work it out, or fight it out, and in that way learn which, if either, is God’s chosen people." I then watched America get into two foreign wars it could not win. And nearly into several more. And now another looms. It looks to me that the only cure is America, and the world, receive huge injections of estrogen, psychologically and spiritually. Without that, nothing will change in America, the Middle East, the world - humanity.  

 

Jon Carver
Writes What's the Anti-Matter?
Nobody is God's Chosen People. That's Abrahamic ethnic supremacy in action. It's why Jews kill kids. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
You are correct, that nobody is God’s chosen people, and that was the sarcasm in what I was told leaving the post office that day. 
How many kids has radical Islam killed? How many kids are killed each year in American schools, and the American right says, guns don’t kill kids, people do? 
 
Jon Carver
Judeo-Christians kill more, by far, than any other self identified group in world history. This is a fact. 
 
FACT: Judeo-Christians are the killingest ideological grouping in world history by many tens of millions more dead innocents precisely because the Abrahamic God is an ethnic supremacist Proud Boy type who demands death to Goys. Not defending Islam here either. I stand for the eradication of all Abrahamic being, since Abrahamic ideology is literally and factually the killingest set of ideas in human history. God can suck my dick. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
I dunno if that’s a fact, but Christins have in the past, and still today, kill a lot of people, which certainly tramples Jesus in the New Testament.
In the Old Testament, the Israelites killed a lot of people. In its history, Islam killed a lot of people. Today, Islam kills a lot of people. For its size, Israel kills a lot of people. Russia is killing a lot of Ukrainians. In past times, Germany and Japan, Genghis Khan, Vikings, Huns, Persians, Greeks, Romans, America, and so forth killed a lot of people.
Jesus in the Gospels offered a way of living that would end killing people, and end finger pointing, and would end lots of things that were destructive. His fabulous effort was taken to heart by a few, but in the long run, Christians, in the main, reverted to the Old Testament.
As for your dick, it sure looks to me that wars and guns and cannons and rocket launchers are, well, instruments of dick activity, used to prove mine’s bigger and better than yours.
Christianity claims is Trinity is all male, so, does that mean the Trinity is homosexual? 
In Judaism, the Spirit of God is called Shekinah, feminine gender. 
In the Old Testament, Wisdom is assigned the feminine gender. 
In the Old Testament, it is said fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom. 
I don’t see many women in history starting wars. 
The men have had many chances for a long time, and look at the messes they have made. If the women crossed their legs in unison, until men changed, that would be a sight to behold. But that’s not likely to happen. Nor is women running every country in the world likely to happen. 
So, I retreat to a Second Coming in which God injects copious amounts of estrogen into humanity. I do not mean the hormone, I mean the Holy Spirit, Shekinah, Kali, Shakti, Kundalini, Yin, Eve, and let Yang and Adam take a vacation for a while :-) 
 
Ingamarie
The problems do seem to be male problems, but it is also our sons that get turned into school yard bullies, monopolizers or most discussions, know it alls who can't listen, killers who die violent deaths.........lonely middle aged men angry because no woman wants anything to do with them....and on and on and on...
And everywhere, there are good fathers and loving husbands who continue to form partnerships with women and do the real work of maintaining peaceful societies.
I for one pity men. They get to do a lot of dirty work....are policed by enforced heterosexuality....and often abandoned when they can't make everything work. We need new models...and we have to teach them...by example and by what we expose our boys to as children.
More adult men need to explicitly join that transformation...because as children, little boys are as loveable, and loving....as little girls. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
Carl Jung devoted his life to revealing the problem with the damaged feminine in women as well as in men. He called the feminine the anima, and he called the masculine the animus. Before I got dragooned into politics in 2000, I spent a lot of time in the arena Dr. Jung roamed, and I concluded, in the main, humanity needs a great deal more estrogen, so to speak, and a great deal less yang, so to speak. Wars, basically, are my dick is bigger and better than yours. Finger pointing is pure yang. Looking in the mirror at beams in own eye is yin. There needs to be a whole lot less finger pointing, and a whole lot more introspection. I'm heterosexual, and it was not enforced, it is me. I had a number of very important relationships with remarkable women, with each of them, something woke up in me, which I did not know was there. St Paul’s thorn in the flesh, which he never explained was, he was gay. Well. perhaps I should hush. 
 
Ingamarie
Yes, I've been a student of Jung as well. A good man who taught me that projection was the defence mechanism most likely to destroy the future......seeing in the other things you haven't dealt with in yourself, is too common.
And yes....more of the virtues attributed to women could help...what's more, realizing that women have the capacity to be brave, cold, pig headed just as men do, but that those behaviors aren't always desireable. The sexes are different....but so are we all combinations of yin and yang in a variety of ways.
It is unfortunate however, that the yang qualities have been over emphasised and are threatening to end life on the planet....good for you to acknowledge what you've received from women...
And yes. We still need to acknowledge that the yang energies aren't by themselves anything to brag about. We're all stronger together.....and none of us has all the answers.
Never thought of your explanation for Paul's obnoxiousness, but you could very well be right. Not being able to be who we really are is a poison that destroys too many potentially good people. 
 
Jon Carver
Women aren't superior or inferior to anyone else. Estrogen isn't better than testosterone. What a buncha crap. Stop being a sexist chauvinist piglet. And your religious beliefs are bigoted. Read the Torah, it celebrates multiple Jewish enacted Genocides, doesn't it?   

 

Ingamarie
Good lord you're a nasty debater Jon. Had you been in my classroom, you'd have constantly had to turn to that page of rules for civil discourse that I handed out on the first day of class.
Try to restrain your contempt for other people expressing their viewpoints....your vitriol does no good. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
He’s a wee bit stuck in yang, whose yin ain’t been around for a while? 
 
Ingamarie
We forget the children, dying swiftly every day, or slowly under the rubble of the carpet bombing...when we imagine we have the answer to what is an atrocity the world doesn't seem to know how to stop. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
Hamas forgot the children of Gaza when it launched the Oct 7 attack, hoping very much to provoke Israel to do what it ended up doing in Gaza. Now, how does it stop? I don’t know. It feeds on itself. There is no feminine in it. I had poem come out of me about this a few years ago. I’ll go fetch it.

"Bi Polar” 

 

the world's favorite mood disorder
the cause of all human ails,
including wars,
if the demons aren't counted

bi polar disorder,
the destruction of the
south pole,
the feminine,
the north pole,
he ain't been
right in the head
since she’s been gone 
 
Ingamarie
Boys die in warfare calling for their mother. When will we wise up and acknowledge original love? 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
When will we wise up and stop making wars? 

 

Ingamarie

When we've created more jobs in the care and service areas than in the weapons manufacturing business'. I read somewhere recently that a good part of why America supports Israel....and the continued war in Ukraine, is because there are weapon manufacturing jobs in almost every jurisdiction in your country.

Imagine if, instead of guns, we grew roses....made bread....believed that everyone would benefit from a certain amount of physical labour??? We're denuding our planet creating junk for the people to buy and high tech weapons for the military men (most of them also from the working class) to kill each other with.
War is the Ultimate Waste Industry......... we have to stop preparing for war, since its our preparations that make using up those surplus weapons so enticing.

Sloan Bashinsky
War has been big business in corporate America for a long time. When he was leaving the White House after his second term, General Eisenhower warned Americans to beware of. he military-industrial complex. There really is no way to unravel it at the point in time, logic has no place at that corporate board table. Nor does Mother Nature. 
I am a mystic, made so by angels known in the Bible, who have ridden rough shod on me for a decades. They changed how I viewed myself and everything else. it wasn’t a lot of fun, They give me no clues about that lies ahead of me, or for America, or for anything regarding humanity. However, I concluded humanity has dug itself into such a deep hole, in the main, that it will not dig its way out of it, and that leaves something beyond human to intervene, or not. 

It is said a giant asteroid extinct the dinosaurs. I know ETs exist, will they finally intervene? I know angels exist, but they do not seem inclined to interfere in a large way - not yet, anyway. The planet is sentient, perhaps she will finally cough or sneeze and shake the fleas off her? Or the sun, which is sentient, decides to send a giant solar flare to relieve the planet and her fleas of their misery. What do I know? I’m just an ignorant ornery old white man in Alabama.  

Jon Carver
You don't have vitriolic contempt for Genocidal Maniac War Criminals? What's wrong with you?
Vitriol is appropriate. Jews are killing thousands of children. Most Jewish identifying people want the genocide to continue. They want more dead kids. Just the facts. Vitriol against genocidal assholes is utterly appropriate. 
Judaism kill kids. See Gaza. Are you able to grasp this basic fact? Is it indecent to tell the truth? 
Judaism is deeply bigoted shit thinking. Study the Torah! 
 
Ingamarie
Hahahah....study your own retorts. 
 
Jon Carver
Masculine or feminine or intersex or trans, the Judaic God wants more dead Goy children today in Gaza and most Jews, male, female, intersex or trans, want more dead Goy children today, too. Check the polls. Do facts for a change.
So , based on what you're writing here, Sloan, it would seem you believe Jews are right to kill kids because the "feminine spirit" of the homophobic, anti- sex, Anti-Nature Jewish Bigot God wants more dead kids to secure the Jewish homeland? There are more than two genders, and having a penis or vagina doesn't make you superior to anyone else. Enough with the misandry, thanks. That's bigotry, too. Most Jewish women support the Genocide in Gaza today, for example. Jewish women in Israel are demanding, along with their bigoted God that more Palestinian Goy gotta die for the Jewish God and the Covenant with Abraham. Stop killing the messenger, just because you can't handle the truth. Judaism is inherently bigotry. See Gaza this morning. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
Woah! 
I’m trying to explain why the killing you abhor, as do I, is happening. God, by any name, has nothing do with that killing. 
Just because someone or someones say they are following God, or something they do is for God, or is God/s will, doesn’t mean it’s true.  
Action always speaks louder than words.   
 
Jon Carver
Oh. The only good Christians are good Christians fallacy. I'm sorry, but if you self identify as Jewish like Tony Blinken, who could stop the genocide today, but instead opposed a Ceasefire, and most Jews do believe in the Covenant with Abraham and see the genocide as their right because of their religious beliefs. This is self evident if you've ever attended a Passover Seder. Next year in Israel ( we'll slaughter more children) L’chaim! 

Sloan Bashinsky
Good grief, you twist my words like Washington politicians Democrats, Republicans, MAGAs and Christians twist words. Biden should have abandoned Israel after it became obvious what Israel was going to do in Gaza. The people running Israel and IDF are criminally insane, as are, I think, anyone who sides with them. I say the same about Hamas and people who side with it. Those fuckers took kids as hostages on Oct. 7, which was my birthday. Looks to me you would benefit from a large injection of the feminine. Not Picking on you. Humanity, women and men alike, needs a large injection of the feminine. 
 
Ingamarie
What's even funnier, is, we don't need that injection. Those hormones, those feelings, run through us all...male and female.
It's just that men learn they have to play the tough game not to be seen as a loser or sissy..........
And over time, if you have no opportunity to express your softer, more empathic side.......Many men lose the ability.
Look at some of the comments. Guys stuck with one idea that they defend as if their erections depended on it....lol and goddess forgive me!!

Sloan Bashinsky
Heh, be careful you don’t get burned at a stake :-) 

A south Alabama belle graced me with this of hers a few years ago: 

 

“Pigs in mud”  

All want the security of the well fed pig.

Horror at the baseness unrecognized.

A lifetime spent in shirt stuffing.

And pen comparison.

Is truth more palatable when honeyed?

Is a stark soulscape less so with the eyes of Monet? 

May my affectations always be understood.  

 

Jon Carver
Since all the polls show that the vast majority of world Jews side with Israel and support Netanyahu's Amalek War,-genocide, according to what you've written here, the vast majority of Jews are "criminally insane". That's a strong, but accurate statement given the poll numbers. Jews are mostly criminally insane, as you put it. Vagina -Womb bearers are in no way superior to Penis and Testes People. That's called Sexist Bullshit. Stop with the Male Hating and misandry please. It a form of bigotry. People are people. Stop obsessing about gender and genitals. It's creepy and sexist. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
You continue to twist what I write. Good thing I wrote it, which left a record simply speaking would not. :-) Didn’t you tell God to suck your dick?

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