Melchizedek star
Melchizedek is introduced in the Book of Genesis in the Christian Bible, which was derived from the Jewish Scriptures. Genesis describes a supernatural being, Melchizedek, who took human form as the King of Salem (Peace). Abraham had dealings with Melchizedek. Abraham’s wife Sarah bore Isaac, whose bloodline became the Israelites, whose blood brought forth Jesus and Christianity. Sarah's slave Hagar received Abraham’s seed, with Sarah’s permission, and Hagar bore Ishmael, whose bloodline produced Mohammed and Islam. The Star David actually is the universal symbol for Melchizedek.
I was waiting for a good moment to drop someone else's suggested solution for the Palestine war into retired war correspondent turned armchair commentator Chris Hedges’ Newsletter, to which I am a paid subscriber. That moment came the day before yesterday, when this arrived in my email account.
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Here is what I dropped, followed by other people’s responses and my responses to them.
Sloan Bashinsky
Chris, I would like to hear your and your readers' views of this below, written by someone I attended grammar school with and had not seen or heard from until he subscribed to my substack the other day.***********************One must wonder how many decades people will cling to the vision of a two-state solution for the Israelis and the Palestinians while the facts on the ground move continually in the other direction. Nor is a one-state solution any more plausible. Time for a new idea.
The fundamental problem for Israel and the Palestinians is that there are 5 million stateless Palestinians and Israel will never accept them as citizens because they are not Jewish. Without a country, the Palestinians will never be free. I see one possible solution: the world should buy a country for the Palestinians.
It would not be cheap. Rebuilding Gaza after Israel destroys it will also not be cheap, but the world will pay for it. Here is my proposal.
Buy a poorly developed part of Sudan bordering Egypt with a size roughly equivalent to Israel. Include an outlet to the Red Sea.
Sudan is located in the same general part of the world as Gaza but far enough away from Israel to make continued hostilities unlikely. The no-longer-stateless Palestinians would not try to launch rockets across Egypt.
An offer sufficiently attractive to Sudan to conclude such a deal would need to be explored.
One possibility: Offer to permanently redirect the aid that the US gives Israel (approximately $4 billion per year) and give it to Sudan instead. Sudan is one of the poorest countries in the world with a GDP of approximately $34 billion. Permanent aid of $4 billion per year would make a huge difference.
Enlist a coalition of nations to build a new Palestine in the purchased area. The US can contribute the money it would otherwise spend replacing all the buildings and infrastructure in Gaza that Israel has turned into rubble. Israel can rebuild Gaza.
nosey parkerYou could do that but since Israelis are the colonialists I suggest they go to the Sudan and leave Palestinians alone. You sound as eager as the Israelis to dispossess the Palestinians of their homeland. WTF? The Israelis need to go.
OR the Israelis could go to Georgia, THEIR ancestral homeland.
Phil Kind Man
Good idea with one modification, the Jewish settlers should be sent to Sudan, not the Palestinians, who are the modern original residents of Palestine! It makes more sense to establish a new Israel in Sudan, than it is to establish a new Palestine in Sudan!
Sloan BashinskyMy sentiments also. Then, Islam would control Palestine, the so-called holy land, and hopefully they welcome Christian visitors and their money. I imagine they would. As things now stand, the tourism industry there is dead, and that’s a big hit for that area.
Julio SantosMy suggestion is "enlist a coalition of nations" which will demand the granting of the Palestinian statehood and the end of the occupation and blockade of their land. This will be less expensive for the whole world than the continuous support that USA gives to Israel and would be fair to both Israel and Palestine as well as for their diasporas. And let the war criminals to be judged and sentenced.
Sloan Bashinsky
Demand? Israel will just roll over? I doubt it.
Landru
Solutions. Many have including myself. It's an easy problem to solve. Give the Palestinians right of return. One person, one vote and equal rights for all. That isn't hard to understand or implement. People living in peace wow, what a hard concept to understand.
Sloan Bashinsky
I agree, but how to bring that off?
Landru
Without U.S. aid israel falls as a functioning gov. See how quickly human rights are restored. Not special rights, equal rights for all. The world is ending israel slowly now not wanting to support Genocide. We could do nothing and nothing changes OR we can do the simple things that change everything.
Sloan Bashinsky
I agree, but since I live in a part of America controlled by the Christian and conservative right, Alabama, I know they will not stand for a president or Congress that abandons Israel to Islam. So, elsewhere in this thread, including my initial comment, are other suggested solutions, which I imagine would meet Father Abraham and Melchizedek’s approval. In Genesis, Abraham had dealings with a supernatural being that had taken human form, Melchizedek, aka the King of Salem (Peace). Few today know that the “Star of David” actually is the universal symbol of Melchizedek, an angelic order.
Jon Carver
Here comes Sloan the bigot with his relocation Progrom for the Jew God after Jews in Israel have stolen their homes and families. Sloan is a great example of Jewish bigotry. He doesn't even see what a shit head he is. Sloan is a kind of Nazi, actually, and not a deep thinker. Like relocation isn't always a part of genocide, you fucked up, bigoted Jewish moron supremacist. Fuck Judaic bigots!
Marcia Z Bookstein
Your comment sounds so utterly anti-Semitic, Jon, that it's no wonder Jews are afraid for their lives. Yes, anti-Semitic. Would there even have been an Israel if people hadn't felt guilt about not allowing Jewish refugees from Europe into their countries? They were turned away from the US, and everywhere north and south of this country. They returned by ship to be butchered by Nazis. Where are we guaranteed to be safe? Nowhere except Israel. Murder and death taught us that. It sounds to me like you would like all of us to die. That would solve everything, wouldn't it? You believe that we are all that awful? If there were no Jews, would the Muslims then go after the Christians? Your speech does nothing to help.
Jon Carver
Hey Marcia, please don't put words in my mouth. And not calling for anyone's death. Anti-semiticism is what Jews today in Israel are doing to their semitic cousins in Gaza, today and for the past 50 plus years in their genocide for the Covenant with Abraham, no? My issue is with why Jews like Tony Blinken want more dead kids. I believe, since he identifies as Jewish that he believes in the Covenant of Abraham. Then when I study the Torah I find that it's incredibly xenophobic, Jewish Supremacist and celebrates multiple acts of genocidal ethnic cleansings as "Holocausts for Yaweh" the only spiritual entity Jews are allowed to acknowledge. Anyway, Jews are just people like everyone else. I despise the Abrahamic Ideology as it's so clearly Supremacism, the same way I despise the Supremacism of Nazis and the Proud Boys. I don't discriminate between bigots doing bigotry as Jewish people are today in Gaza and the West Bank. Why can't y'all share, I'm supportive of a Jewish homeland in Israel, but definitely not by slaughtering and mutilating children to get there.
Sloan BashinskyIf you read my comment, Jon, you know I asked for feedback about what someone else had written, which I included in my comment.
I told the fellow who made the proposal that I felt Israel should move to The Sudan, but if that happened, who would rebuild Gaza? You. Caitlin Johnstone? Chris Hedges? The UN? Hamas? Hezbollah? ISIS? Iran? Certainly not America or Israel.
To date, I have yet to see Caitlin, or any of her followers, or Chris Hedges, or any of his followers, offer a solution to the Israel-Palestine horror show, other than Israel ceases to exist, which is the stated goal of Hamas’s charter.I think the odds of getting Israel to agree to cease to exist are below zero. So, Jon, perhaps you will suggest a solution that has at least a zero chance of Israel and its Palestine adversaries accepting?I have proposed here, and at Caitlin’s place, that America offer all Israelis sanctuary in America, to atone for not doing that after WWII, and I got no amens. I doubt the Israelis would go for it, and I doubt America would go for it, either.I keep wondering if you, Jon, and many others who lay all the blame on Israel and America, were so abused when they were children, that they are unable to consider that what’s going on in Gaza punches every last one of their wounded and abused little child buttons, so that they simply cannot see Hamas tricked Israel into doing the very thing Hamas wants Israel to do in Gaza, and in that way, Hamas put every person in Gaza at mortal risk.
If I were America's President, I would do what in some circles is called a culture jam, and in other circles is called a systems jump. I would declassify all U.S. Government’s UFO files, hoping that would so fuck up every stupid war and disagreement going on everywhere, that maybe humanity would come to its senses, or at least stop fucking over other humans beings, and they start trying to save humans from themselves and what they perceive to be the, yes, the sum of all their fears, over which they have zero control, which might be worse fear for them than having zero control over God by whatever name they tried many times to remake in their own image and boss around.
Jon Carver
Hi Sloan, not sure if your characterization of Caitlin or Chris is accurate, but that aside, you and your "friend" who floated ideas of relocating Palestinians are doing bigotry. Have you heard of the Trail of Tears. Relocation is a prime element of genocide. It's called forced removal. Personally, I believe in a Jewish right of return to Israel after 2000 or so years of Diaspora following the sacking of the Second Temple of Solomon by Titus. I also believe that Palestinians have a right to live, as they have for generations, in their homeland in Israel. The problem that I see is that Jewish Supremacy which is systemic to Judaic cultural settings and Judaic thinkers means Daddy Jew knows what's best for the Palestinians you all have killed regularly and systematically for years . Some of the worst examples of bigoted speech I've ever heard came from the mouths of Jewish Liberals slurring Arabs, the descendants of Ishmael, and your cousins. The problem as I see it is Jewish Bigotry coming from the celebration of the Holocausts that xenophobic Jews bring upon the Canaanites in the Torah. Jews need to recognize the immense cultural Supremacism of saying there is only on God and he's Jewish. As a Goy ( fucking pig supremacist slur Jew word that all Jews use, basically) I have to say fuck Jewish Supremacist Bigots and their genocidal shit thinking. Please tell that to your genocidal Jewish "friend" that came up with that shitty, bigoted, Palestinian Relocation Progrom. Tell him that's what the Goy said. Please let him know that is what I think of his bigoted Jewish thinking. Thanks. Fuck the Jew God!
Marcia Z Bookstein
The descendents of Ishmael are our half brothers and sisters. Not our cousins. Same father, different mother.
Sloan Bashinsky
Correct.
Sloan Bashinsky
He is not my friend, Jon, I haven’t seen or spoken with him him since grammar school. He is not Jewish. He is does not care for my view of Hamas. He understands Israel will never leave Palestine voluntarily. That said, I pretty much agree with your assessments and beliefs stated in your comment, and I wish you would propose a solution, but your don’t, and perhaps that’s because Palestine is way beyond FUBAR and there is no solution. Unless, God, or something, steps in and does something truly biblical that maybe nobody in Palestine likes? So that every one there, and at Chris Hedgs’s and Caitlin Johnstone’s places, all want to tell God to fuck himself? Or herself? Or itself?Jon Carver
The solution is that Jews in Israel learn to share, make reparations for 50 plus years of ethnic cleansing in Palestine, and hang their heads in shame for their and their religious system's systemic lack of humanity. LEARN TO SHARE ISRAEL WITH THE CHILDREN OF ISHMAEL. I'd also like to encourage you to simply stop being Jewish and to reject Judaic theology and become a person instead of associating yourself with the Ethnic Supremacists, the Proud Boys of Judah.
Sloan Bashinsky
I’m not Jewish, Jon. I used to be a Christian. I think the creation of the state of Israel was a colossal blunder. I wish President Biden had abandoned Israel after he saw what IDF was doing in Gaza. Where you and I never agreed is I put half of It on Hamas, starting with October 7. Because Hamas got Israel to do precisely what Hamas wanted Israel to do. You may care about the Gaza people, but Hamas does not. All Hamas cares about is trying to destroy Israel. That’s why Hamas was created. Its charter said so. Its “revised” charter says so in different language, all glory to Allah, Islam is a peaceful religion. Read it for yourself. Hell, Islam doesn’t even get along with itself.
Jon Carver
All the Abrahamists kill for God, that's a huge part of the problem. That's why I'm opposed to Abrahamism and Abrahamic systems of hierarchical bigotry and castes. Hamas is desperate. They made a desperate move to provoke Israel and their sycophants in the US government. How do you oppose the genocidal actions of Judaism in Israel since the 1920s or so? Hamas did what it had to do and seems to be winning world opinion wars, along with the Houthis in the Red Sea, the only folks actively trying to intervene by destroying property and disrupting Capitalist trade without, yet, harming a person. What would you have done on October 7th if you were in Hamas' position in the Concentration Camp of Gaza?
Sloan Bashinsky
If I were Hamas, would have cared too much for human life, especially in Gaza, to try to provoke Israel on October 7 to level Gaza and kill a lot of unarmed civilians, in pursuit of trying to kill me.
Jon Carver
"Our Religions must become subject to an overwhelming loyalty to humankind as a whole." MLKJ. Jews, Christians and Capitalists are the only faith based religious groups I know that so clearly lack the loyalty to humankind that King spoke so eloquently about.
Sloan Bashinsky
Dr. King was spot on. Interesting, you classify capitalism as a religion, which it is :)
Jon Carver
It's the 4th (blind) faith based Abrahamic religion. Calvinist Capitalist Wealth Accumulators. Their concepts come through Protestantism directly from Calvinist readings of the Torah, which says God rewards the wealthy with riches because of their superior virtues ( snort)😂
Sloan Bashinsky
That’s actually hilarious genealogy, the way you present it.
Marcia Z BooksteinFirst, I'm in awe of your response to Jon. I'm grateful for your example of grace and patience.
And I agree that there is no solution. I have my own idea, though: as a student of comedy improv, I think the Israeli side and the Palesitian side should get together. I like the idea of the King David Hotel. (That's where my uncle was born!) There you would have mediators, negotiators, psychologists, comedians (both Jewish and Palestinian--they have truly honed their craft!) and comedy improv teachers. Each Israeli would play the part of a Palestinian, and vice versa. This is how you truly understand someone. I've done it and it's remarkable. (I played a right-winger in the International Space Station.) Laughter is healing, and, yes, a good comedian can make anything funny. It's a great way to connect. Also, have the best Halal food, which is more Kosher than Kosher, and no wine. (Yeah, wine makes people weird. Just use laughter to break the ice. It's also against Islamic rules I believe.) And then just talk. And talk and talk. Maybe a few hundred years or so. I want to be there! At least, while people are talking, they aren't killing each other. There. Solved.
Sloan BashinskyFrom God’s mouth to your ear. Thank you.
While I think Chris Hedges has not understood Hamas’s strategy for October 7, I also think Chris is more than well enough known and respected as a war correspondent, who put his own life on the line many times in red hot war zones, and he was friends of Hamas’s founder, and he knows that region and its peoples, and I think he is the ideal person to go there, representing himself and concern for all people, and he tries to sit down with both sides, and speak them as a man who has been through the flames of hell, and nudge and cajole them to give serious thought to setting side their religious and other differences, and embracing they are all children of Father Abraham, and its time to turn their swords into plowshares, because anything else simply is intolerable for all the people in that region.Palestine is the epicenter of three huge religions. Let them turn it into a peaceful, beautiful holy shrine for all three religions. Let the members those religions come there from all over the world, with their money, to celebrate their religions' history and to worship and to get to know their brothers and sisters descended from Abraham, Sarah and Hagar. That would surely please God. I can imagine Chris Hedges being Allah's emissary and mediator for that unfolding. But he has to go in neutral. He has to be ready and willing to be the adult in the room, because both sides have contributed to this horrible mess, and only they can fix it.
You go with Chris, as the court jester, the comedian, the sage fool who knows tears and love like perhaps no other. You and Christ, er, Chris, tag team them, help them shriek, writhe, cry and laugh.
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