Some proposed solutions to the war in Palestine, which surely would please Melchizedek and Father Abraham

                                    

Melchizedek star

    Melchizedek is introduced in the Book of Genesis in the Christian Bible, which was derived from the Jewish Scriptures. Genesis describes a supernatural being, Melchizedek, who took human form as the King of Salem (Peace). Abraham had dealings with Melchizedek. Abraham’s wife Sarah bore Isaac, whose bloodline became the Israelites, whose blood brought forth Jesus and Christianity. Sarah's slave Hagar received Abraham’s seed, with Sarah’s permission, and Hagar bore Ishmael, whose bloodline produced Mohammed and Islam. The Star David actually is the universal symbol for Melchizedek.

    I was waiting for a good moment to drop someone else's suggested solution for the Palestine war into retired war correspondent turned armchair commentator Chris Hedges’ Newsletter, to which I am a paid subscriber. That moment came the day before yesterday, when this arrived in my email account.

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     Here is what I dropped, followed by other people’s responses and my responses to them.

Sloan Bashinsky

Chris, I would like to hear your and your readers' views of this below, written by someone I attended grammar school with and had not seen or heard from until he subscribed to my substack the other day.

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One must wonder how many decades people will cling to the vision of a two-state solution for the Israelis and the Palestinians while the facts on the ground move continually in the other direction. Nor is a one-state solution any more plausible. Time for a new idea. 

The fundamental problem for Israel and the Palestinians is that there are 5 million stateless Palestinians and Israel will never accept them as citizens because they are not Jewish. Without a country, the Palestinians will never be free. I see one possible solution: the world should buy a country for the Palestinians. 

It would not be cheap. Rebuilding Gaza after Israel destroys it will also not be cheap, but the world will pay for it. Here is my proposal. 

Buy a poorly developed part of Sudan bordering Egypt with a size roughly equivalent to Israel. Include an outlet to the Red Sea. 

Sudan is located in the same general part of the world as Gaza but far enough away from Israel to make continued hostilities unlikely. The no-longer-stateless Palestinians would not try to launch rockets across Egypt. 

An offer sufficiently attractive to Sudan to conclude such a deal would need to be explored. 

One possibility: Offer to permanently redirect the aid that the US gives Israel (approximately $4 billion per year) and give it to Sudan instead. Sudan is one of the poorest countries in the world with a GDP of approximately $34 billion. Permanent aid of $4 billion per year would make a huge difference.

Enlist a coalition of nations to build a new Palestine in the purchased area. The US can contribute the money it would otherwise spend replacing all the buildings and infrastructure in Gaza that Israel has turned into rubble. Israel can rebuild Gaza. 

 

nosey parker

You could do that but since Israelis are the colonialists I suggest they go to the Sudan and leave Palestinians alone. You sound as eager as the Israelis to dispossess the Palestinians of their homeland. WTF? The Israelis need to go.

OR the Israelis could go to Georgia, THEIR ancestral homeland. 

 

Phil Kind Man 

 

Good idea with one modification, the Jewish settlers should be sent to Sudan, not the Palestinians, who are the modern original residents of Palestine! It makes more sense to establish a new Israel in Sudan, than it is to establish a new Palestine in Sudan! 

 

Sloan Bashinsky

My sentiments also. Then, Islam would control Palestine, the so-called holy land, and hopefully they welcome Christian visitors and their money. I imagine they would. As things now stand, the tourism industry there is dead, and that’s a big hit for that area. 

 

Julio Santos 

 

My suggestion is "enlist a coalition of nations" which will demand the granting of the Palestinian statehood and the end of the occupation and blockade of their land. This will be less expensive for the whole world than the continuous support that USA gives to Israel and would be fair to both Israel and Palestine as well as for their diasporas. And let the war criminals to be judged and sentenced. 

Sloan Bashinsky

Demand? Israel will just roll over? I doubt it. 

Landru 

 

Solutions. Many have including myself. It's an easy problem to solve. Give the Palestinians right of return. One person, one vote and equal rights for all. That isn't hard to understand or implement. People living in peace wow, what a hard concept to understand.

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

I agree, but how to bring that off? 

 

Landru
Without U.S. aid israel falls as a functioning gov. See how quickly human rights are restored. Not special rights, equal rights for all. The world is ending israel slowly now not wanting to support Genocide. We could do nothing and nothing changes OR we can do the simple things that change everything.

Sloan Bashinsky 

I agree, but since I live in a part of America controlled by the Christian and conservative right, Alabama, I know they will not stand for a president or Congress that abandons Israel to Islam. So, elsewhere in this thread, including my initial comment, are other suggested solutions, which I imagine would meet Father Abraham and Melchizedek’s approval. In Genesis, Abraham had dealings with a supernatural being that had taken human form, Melchizedek, aka the King of Salem (Peace). Few today know that the “Star of David” actually is the universal symbol of Melchizedek, an angelic order. 

 

Jon Carver 

 

Here comes Sloan the bigot with his relocation Progrom for the Jew God after Jews in Israel have stolen their homes and families. Sloan is a great example of Jewish bigotry. He doesn't even see what a shit head he is. Sloan is a kind of Nazi, actually, and not a deep thinker. Like relocation isn't always a part of genocide, you fucked up, bigoted Jewish moron supremacist. Fuck Judaic bigots! 

 

Marcia Z Bookstein 

 

Your comment sounds so utterly anti-Semitic, Jon, that it's no wonder Jews are afraid for their lives. Yes, anti-Semitic. Would there even have been an Israel if people hadn't felt guilt about not allowing Jewish refugees from Europe into their countries? They were turned away from the US, and everywhere north and south of this country. They returned by ship to be butchered by Nazis. Where are we guaranteed to be safe? Nowhere except Israel. Murder and death taught us that. It sounds to me like you would like all of us to die. That would solve everything, wouldn't it? You believe that we are all that awful? If there were no Jews, would the Muslims then go after the Christians? Your speech does nothing to help.  

 

Jon Carver 

 

Hey Marcia, please don't put words in my mouth. And not calling for anyone's death. Anti-semiticism is what Jews today in Israel are doing to their semitic cousins in Gaza, today and for the past 50 plus years in their genocide for the Covenant with Abraham, no? My issue is with why Jews like Tony Blinken want more dead kids. I believe, since he identifies as Jewish that he believes in the Covenant of Abraham. Then when I study the Torah I find that it's incredibly xenophobic, Jewish Supremacist and celebrates multiple acts of genocidal ethnic cleansings as "Holocausts for Yaweh" the only spiritual entity Jews are allowed to acknowledge. Anyway, Jews are just people like everyone else. I despise the Abrahamic Ideology as it's so clearly Supremacism, the same way I despise the Supremacism of Nazis and the Proud Boys. I don't discriminate between bigots doing bigotry as Jewish people are today in Gaza and the West Bank. Why can't y'all share, I'm supportive of a Jewish homeland in Israel, but definitely not by slaughtering and mutilating children to get there.  

 

Sloan Bashinsky

If you read my comment, Jon, you know I asked for feedback about what someone else had written, which I included in my comment. 
I told the fellow who made the proposal that I felt Israel should move to The Sudan, but if that happened, who would rebuild Gaza? You. Caitlin Johnstone? Chris Hedges? The UN? Hamas? Hezbollah? ISIS? Iran? Certainly not America or Israel.
To date, I have yet to see Caitlin, or any of her followers, or Chris Hedges, or any of his followers, offer a solution to the Israel-Palestine horror show, other than Israel ceases to exist, which is the stated goal of Hamas’s charter.

I think the odds of getting Israel to agree to cease to exist are below zero. So, Jon, perhaps you will suggest a solution that has at least a zero chance of Israel and its Palestine adversaries accepting?

I have proposed here, and at Caitlin’s place, that America offer all Israelis sanctuary in America, to atone for not doing that after WWII, and I got no amens. I doubt the Israelis would go for it, and I doubt America would go for it, either.

I keep wondering if you, Jon, and many others who lay all the blame on Israel and America, were so abused when they were children, that they are unable to consider that what’s going on in Gaza punches every last one of their wounded and abused little child buttons, so that they simply cannot see Hamas tricked Israel into doing the very thing Hamas wants Israel to do in Gaza, and in that way, Hamas put every person in Gaza at mortal risk.

If I were America's President, I would do what in some circles is called a culture jam, and in other circles is called a systems jump. I would declassify all U.S. Government’s UFO files, hoping that would so fuck up every stupid war and disagreement going on everywhere, that maybe humanity would come to its senses, or at least stop fucking over other humans beings, and they start trying to save humans from themselves and what they perceive to be the, yes, the sum of all their fears, over which they have zero control, which might be worse fear for them than having zero control over God by whatever name they tried many times to remake in their own image and boss around. 

 

Jon Carver 

 

Hi Sloan, not sure if your characterization of Caitlin or Chris is accurate, but that aside, you and your "friend" who floated ideas of relocating Palestinians are doing bigotry. Have you heard of the Trail of Tears. Relocation is a prime element of genocide. It's called forced removal. Personally, I believe in a Jewish right of return to Israel after 2000 or so years of Diaspora following the sacking of the Second Temple of Solomon by Titus. I also believe that Palestinians have a right to live, as they have for generations, in their homeland in Israel. The problem that I see is that Jewish Supremacy which is systemic to Judaic cultural settings and Judaic thinkers means Daddy Jew knows what's best for the Palestinians you all have killed regularly and systematically for years . Some of the worst examples of bigoted speech I've ever heard came from the mouths of Jewish Liberals slurring Arabs, the descendants of Ishmael, and your cousins. The problem as I see it is Jewish Bigotry coming from the celebration of the Holocausts that xenophobic Jews bring upon the Canaanites in the Torah. Jews need to recognize the immense cultural Supremacism of saying there is only on God and he's Jewish. As a Goy ( fucking pig supremacist slur Jew word that all Jews use, basically) I have to say fuck Jewish Supremacist Bigots and their genocidal shit thinking. Please tell that to your genocidal Jewish "friend" that came up with that shitty, bigoted, Palestinian Relocation Progrom. Tell him that's what the Goy said. Please let him know that is what I think of his bigoted Jewish thinking. Thanks. Fuck the Jew God! 

 

Marcia Z Bookstein 

 

The descendents of Ishmael are our half brothers and sisters. Not our cousins. Same father, different mother. 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

Correct. 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

He is not my friend, Jon, I haven’t seen or spoken with him him since grammar school. He is not Jewish. He is does not care for my view of Hamas. He understands Israel will never leave Palestine voluntarily. That said, I pretty much agree with your assessments and beliefs stated in your comment, and I wish you would propose a solution, but your don’t, and perhaps that’s because Palestine is way beyond FUBAR and there is no solution. Unless, God, or something, steps in and does something truly biblical that maybe nobody in Palestine likes? So that every one there, and at Chris Hedgs’s and Caitlin Johnstone’s places, all want to tell God to fuck himself? Or herself? Or itself? 

Jon Carver

The solution is that Jews in Israel learn to share, make reparations for 50 plus years of ethnic cleansing in Palestine, and hang their heads in shame for their and their religious system's systemic lack of humanity. LEARN TO SHARE ISRAEL WITH THE CHILDREN OF ISHMAEL. I'd also like to encourage you to simply stop being Jewish and to reject Judaic theology and become a person instead of associating yourself with the Ethnic Supremacists, the Proud Boys of Judah.  

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

I’m not Jewish, Jon. I used to be a Christian. I think the creation of the state of Israel was a colossal blunder. I wish President Biden had abandoned Israel after he saw what IDF was doing in Gaza. Where you and I never agreed is I put half of It on Hamas, starting with October 7. Because Hamas got Israel to do precisely what Hamas wanted Israel to do. You may care about the Gaza people, but Hamas does not. All Hamas cares about is trying to destroy Israel. That’s why Hamas was created. Its charter said so. Its “revised” charter says so in different language, all glory to Allah, Islam is a peaceful religion. Read it for yourself. Hell, Islam doesn’t even get along with itself. 

 

Jon Carver 

 

All the Abrahamists kill for God, that's a huge part of the problem. That's why I'm opposed to Abrahamism and Abrahamic systems of hierarchical bigotry and castes. Hamas is desperate. They made a desperate move to provoke Israel and their sycophants in the US government. How do you oppose the genocidal actions of Judaism in Israel since the 1920s or so? Hamas did what it had to do and seems to be winning world opinion wars, along with the Houthis in the Red Sea, the only folks actively trying to intervene by destroying property and disrupting Capitalist trade without, yet, harming a person. What would you have done on October 7th if you were in Hamas' position in the Concentration Camp of Gaza? 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

If I were Hamas, would have cared too much for human life, especially in Gaza, to try to provoke Israel on October 7 to level Gaza and kill a lot of unarmed civilians, in pursuit of trying to kill me.  

 

Jon Carver 

 

"Our Religions must become subject to an overwhelming loyalty to humankind as a whole." MLKJ. Jews, Christians and Capitalists are the only faith based religious groups I know that so clearly lack the loyalty to humankind that King spoke so eloquently about. 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

Dr. King was spot on. Interesting, you classify capitalism as a religion, which it is :) 

 

Jon Carver 

 

It's the 4th (blind) faith based Abrahamic religion. Calvinist Capitalist Wealth Accumulators. Their concepts come through Protestantism directly from Calvinist readings of the Torah, which says God rewards the wealthy with riches because of their superior virtues ( snort)😂 

 

Sloan Bashinsky 

 

That’s actually hilarious genealogy, the way you present it. 

 

Marcia Z Bookstein

First, I'm in awe of your response to Jon. I'm grateful for your example of grace and patience.

And I agree that there is no solution. I have my own idea, though: as a student of comedy improv, I think the Israeli side and the Palesitian side should get together. I like the idea of the King David Hotel. (That's where my uncle was born!) There you would have mediators, negotiators, psychologists, comedians (both Jewish and Palestinian--they have truly honed their craft!) and comedy improv teachers. Each Israeli would play the part of a Palestinian, and vice versa. This is how you truly understand someone. I've done it and it's remarkable. (I played a right-winger in the International Space Station.) Laughter is healing, and, yes, a good comedian can make anything funny. It's a great way to connect. Also, have the best Halal food, which is more Kosher than Kosher, and no wine. (Yeah, wine makes people weird. Just use laughter to break the ice. It's also against Islamic rules I believe.) And then just talk. And talk and talk. Maybe a few hundred years or so. I want to be there! At least, while people are talking, they aren't killing each other. There. Solved. 

 

Sloan Bashinsky

From God’s mouth to your ear. Thank you. 

While I think Chris Hedges has not understood Hamas’s strategy for October 7, I also think Chris is more than well enough known and respected as a war correspondent, who put his own life on the line many times in red hot war zones, and he was friends of Hamas’s founder, and he knows that region and its peoples, and I think he is the ideal person to go there, representing himself and concern for all people, and he tries to sit down with both sides, and speak them as a man who has been through the flames of hell, and nudge and cajole them to give serious thought to setting side their religious and other differences, and embracing they are all children of Father Abraham, and its time to turn their swords into plowshares, because anything else simply is intolerable for all the people in that region.

Palestine is the epicenter of three huge religions. Let them turn it into a peaceful, beautiful holy shrine for all three religions. Let the members those religions come there from all over the world, with their money, to celebrate their religions' history and to worship and to get to know their brothers and sisters descended from Abraham, Sarah and Hagar. That would surely please God. I can imagine Chris Hedges being Allah's emissary and mediator for that unfolding. But he has to go in neutral. He has to be ready and willing to be the adult in the room, because both sides have contributed to this horrible mess, and only they can fix it. 

You go with Chris, as the court jester, the comedian, the sage fool who knows tears and love like perhaps no other. You and Christ, er, Chris, tag team them, help them shriek, writhe, cry and laugh. 

sloanbashinsky@yahoo.com

What Israel, Hamas, America and the rest of humanity need is a massive estrogen injection

 

    This morning, received in my email yet another Chris Hedges beat up on Israel and give Hamas a free pass report, which you can read and watch by opening the link:

The Chris Hedges Report with Miko Peled, the son of an Israeli general who served in the Special Forces in the Israeli army, on the racist indoctrination and militarization of Israeli society.

The Israeli army, known as the Israel Defense Forces or IDF, is integral to understanding Israeli society. Nearly all Israelis do three years of military service. Most men continue to serve in the reserves until middle age. Its generals often retire to occupy senior positions in government an industry. The dominance of the military in Israeli society helps explains why war, militaristic nationalism and violence are so deeply embedded in Zionist ideology.

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the-chris-hedges-report-with-miko

    I posted this comment, and the fun began😎.

Sloan’s Newsletter
Three nights before 9/11, a familiar voice asked me in my sleep, “Will you make a prayer for a Divine Intervention for all of humanity?” I woke up, wondering what that was about, and made the prayer. On 9/11, I understood what it was about. My lady friend at the time and I hoped America would not get into another foreign war it could not win. A few days later, as I walked out of a US Post Office, the familiar voice said “America needs to get out of the Middle East altogether and let Islam and Israel work it out, or fight it out, and in that way learn which, if either, is God’s chosen people." I then watched America get into two foreign wars it could not win. And nearly into several more. And now another looms. It looks to me that the only cure is America, and the world, receive huge injections of estrogen, psychologically and spiritually. Without that, nothing will change in America, the Middle East, the world - humanity.  

 

Jon Carver
Writes What's the Anti-Matter?
Nobody is God's Chosen People. That's Abrahamic ethnic supremacy in action. It's why Jews kill kids. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
You are correct, that nobody is God’s chosen people, and that was the sarcasm in what I was told leaving the post office that day. 
How many kids has radical Islam killed? How many kids are killed each year in American schools, and the American right says, guns don’t kill kids, people do? 
 
Jon Carver
Judeo-Christians kill more, by far, than any other self identified group in world history. This is a fact. 
 
FACT: Judeo-Christians are the killingest ideological grouping in world history by many tens of millions more dead innocents precisely because the Abrahamic God is an ethnic supremacist Proud Boy type who demands death to Goys. Not defending Islam here either. I stand for the eradication of all Abrahamic being, since Abrahamic ideology is literally and factually the killingest set of ideas in human history. God can suck my dick. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
I dunno if that’s a fact, but Christins have in the past, and still today, kill a lot of people, which certainly tramples Jesus in the New Testament.
In the Old Testament, the Israelites killed a lot of people. In its history, Islam killed a lot of people. Today, Islam kills a lot of people. For its size, Israel kills a lot of people. Russia is killing a lot of Ukrainians. In past times, Germany and Japan, Genghis Khan, Vikings, Huns, Persians, Greeks, Romans, America, and so forth killed a lot of people.
Jesus in the Gospels offered a way of living that would end killing people, and end finger pointing, and would end lots of things that were destructive. His fabulous effort was taken to heart by a few, but in the long run, Christians, in the main, reverted to the Old Testament.
As for your dick, it sure looks to me that wars and guns and cannons and rocket launchers are, well, instruments of dick activity, used to prove mine’s bigger and better than yours.
Christianity claims is Trinity is all male, so, does that mean the Trinity is homosexual? 
In Judaism, the Spirit of God is called Shekinah, feminine gender. 
In the Old Testament, Wisdom is assigned the feminine gender. 
In the Old Testament, it is said fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom. 
I don’t see many women in history starting wars. 
The men have had many chances for a long time, and look at the messes they have made. If the women crossed their legs in unison, until men changed, that would be a sight to behold. But that’s not likely to happen. Nor is women running every country in the world likely to happen. 
So, I retreat to a Second Coming in which God injects copious amounts of estrogen into humanity. I do not mean the hormone, I mean the Holy Spirit, Shekinah, Kali, Shakti, Kundalini, Yin, Eve, and let Yang and Adam take a vacation for a while :-) 
 
Ingamarie
The problems do seem to be male problems, but it is also our sons that get turned into school yard bullies, monopolizers or most discussions, know it alls who can't listen, killers who die violent deaths.........lonely middle aged men angry because no woman wants anything to do with them....and on and on and on...
And everywhere, there are good fathers and loving husbands who continue to form partnerships with women and do the real work of maintaining peaceful societies.
I for one pity men. They get to do a lot of dirty work....are policed by enforced heterosexuality....and often abandoned when they can't make everything work. We need new models...and we have to teach them...by example and by what we expose our boys to as children.
More adult men need to explicitly join that transformation...because as children, little boys are as loveable, and loving....as little girls. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
Carl Jung devoted his life to revealing the problem with the damaged feminine in women as well as in men. He called the feminine the anima, and he called the masculine the animus. Before I got dragooned into politics in 2000, I spent a lot of time in the arena Dr. Jung roamed, and I concluded, in the main, humanity needs a great deal more estrogen, so to speak, and a great deal less yang, so to speak. Wars, basically, are my dick is bigger and better than yours. Finger pointing is pure yang. Looking in the mirror at beams in own eye is yin. There needs to be a whole lot less finger pointing, and a whole lot more introspection. I'm heterosexual, and it was not enforced, it is me. I had a number of very important relationships with remarkable women, with each of them, something woke up in me, which I did not know was there. St Paul’s thorn in the flesh, which he never explained was, he was gay. Well. perhaps I should hush. 
 
Ingamarie
Yes, I've been a student of Jung as well. A good man who taught me that projection was the defence mechanism most likely to destroy the future......seeing in the other things you haven't dealt with in yourself, is too common.
And yes....more of the virtues attributed to women could help...what's more, realizing that women have the capacity to be brave, cold, pig headed just as men do, but that those behaviors aren't always desireable. The sexes are different....but so are we all combinations of yin and yang in a variety of ways.
It is unfortunate however, that the yang qualities have been over emphasised and are threatening to end life on the planet....good for you to acknowledge what you've received from women...
And yes. We still need to acknowledge that the yang energies aren't by themselves anything to brag about. We're all stronger together.....and none of us has all the answers.
Never thought of your explanation for Paul's obnoxiousness, but you could very well be right. Not being able to be who we really are is a poison that destroys too many potentially good people. 
 
Jon Carver
Women aren't superior or inferior to anyone else. Estrogen isn't better than testosterone. What a buncha crap. Stop being a sexist chauvinist piglet. And your religious beliefs are bigoted. Read the Torah, it celebrates multiple Jewish enacted Genocides, doesn't it?   

 

Ingamarie
Good lord you're a nasty debater Jon. Had you been in my classroom, you'd have constantly had to turn to that page of rules for civil discourse that I handed out on the first day of class.
Try to restrain your contempt for other people expressing their viewpoints....your vitriol does no good. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
He’s a wee bit stuck in yang, whose yin ain’t been around for a while? 
 
Ingamarie
We forget the children, dying swiftly every day, or slowly under the rubble of the carpet bombing...when we imagine we have the answer to what is an atrocity the world doesn't seem to know how to stop. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
Hamas forgot the children of Gaza when it launched the Oct 7 attack, hoping very much to provoke Israel to do what it ended up doing in Gaza. Now, how does it stop? I don’t know. It feeds on itself. There is no feminine in it. I had poem come out of me about this a few years ago. I’ll go fetch it.

"Bi Polar” 

 

the world's favorite mood disorder
the cause of all human ails,
including wars,
if the demons aren't counted

bi polar disorder,
the destruction of the
south pole,
the feminine,
the north pole,
he ain't been
right in the head
since she’s been gone 
 
Ingamarie
Boys die in warfare calling for their mother. When will we wise up and acknowledge original love? 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
When will we wise up and stop making wars? 

 

Ingamarie

When we've created more jobs in the care and service areas than in the weapons manufacturing business'. I read somewhere recently that a good part of why America supports Israel....and the continued war in Ukraine, is because there are weapon manufacturing jobs in almost every jurisdiction in your country.

Imagine if, instead of guns, we grew roses....made bread....believed that everyone would benefit from a certain amount of physical labour??? We're denuding our planet creating junk for the people to buy and high tech weapons for the military men (most of them also from the working class) to kill each other with.
War is the Ultimate Waste Industry......... we have to stop preparing for war, since its our preparations that make using up those surplus weapons so enticing.

Sloan Bashinsky
War has been big business in corporate America for a long time. When he was leaving the White House after his second term, General Eisenhower warned Americans to beware of. he military-industrial complex. There really is no way to unravel it at the point in time, logic has no place at that corporate board table. Nor does Mother Nature. 
I am a mystic, made so by angels known in the Bible, who have ridden rough shod on me for a decades. They changed how I viewed myself and everything else. it wasn’t a lot of fun, They give me no clues about that lies ahead of me, or for America, or for anything regarding humanity. However, I concluded humanity has dug itself into such a deep hole, in the main, that it will not dig its way out of it, and that leaves something beyond human to intervene, or not. 

It is said a giant asteroid extinct the dinosaurs. I know ETs exist, will they finally intervene? I know angels exist, but they do not seem inclined to interfere in a large way - not yet, anyway. The planet is sentient, perhaps she will finally cough or sneeze and shake the fleas off her? Or the sun, which is sentient, decides to send a giant solar flare to relieve the planet and her fleas of their misery. What do I know? I’m just an ignorant ornery old white man in Alabama.  

Jon Carver
You don't have vitriolic contempt for Genocidal Maniac War Criminals? What's wrong with you?
Vitriol is appropriate. Jews are killing thousands of children. Most Jewish identifying people want the genocide to continue. They want more dead kids. Just the facts. Vitriol against genocidal assholes is utterly appropriate. 
Judaism kill kids. See Gaza. Are you able to grasp this basic fact? Is it indecent to tell the truth? 
Judaism is deeply bigoted shit thinking. Study the Torah! 
 
Ingamarie
Hahahah....study your own retorts. 
 
Jon Carver
Masculine or feminine or intersex or trans, the Judaic God wants more dead Goy children today in Gaza and most Jews, male, female, intersex or trans, want more dead Goy children today, too. Check the polls. Do facts for a change.
So , based on what you're writing here, Sloan, it would seem you believe Jews are right to kill kids because the "feminine spirit" of the homophobic, anti- sex, Anti-Nature Jewish Bigot God wants more dead kids to secure the Jewish homeland? There are more than two genders, and having a penis or vagina doesn't make you superior to anyone else. Enough with the misandry, thanks. That's bigotry, too. Most Jewish women support the Genocide in Gaza today, for example. Jewish women in Israel are demanding, along with their bigoted God that more Palestinian Goy gotta die for the Jewish God and the Covenant with Abraham. Stop killing the messenger, just because you can't handle the truth. Judaism is inherently bigotry. See Gaza this morning. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
Woah! 
I’m trying to explain why the killing you abhor, as do I, is happening. God, by any name, has nothing do with that killing. 
Just because someone or someones say they are following God, or something they do is for God, or is God/s will, doesn’t mean it’s true.  
Action always speaks louder than words.   
 
Jon Carver
Oh. The only good Christians are good Christians fallacy. I'm sorry, but if you self identify as Jewish like Tony Blinken, who could stop the genocide today, but instead opposed a Ceasefire, and most Jews do believe in the Covenant with Abraham and see the genocide as their right because of their religious beliefs. This is self evident if you've ever attended a Passover Seder. Next year in Israel ( we'll slaughter more children) L’chaim! 

Sloan Bashinsky
Good grief, you twist my words like Washington politicians Democrats, Republicans, MAGAs and Christians twist words. Biden should have abandoned Israel after it became obvious what Israel was going to do in Gaza. The people running Israel and IDF are criminally insane, as are, I think, anyone who sides with them. I say the same about Hamas and people who side with it. Those fuckers took kids as hostages on Oct. 7, which was my birthday. Looks to me you would benefit from a large injection of the feminine. Not Picking on you. Humanity, women and men alike, needs a large injection of the feminine. 
 
Ingamarie
What's even funnier, is, we don't need that injection. Those hormones, those feelings, run through us all...male and female.
It's just that men learn they have to play the tough game not to be seen as a loser or sissy..........
And over time, if you have no opportunity to express your softer, more empathic side.......Many men lose the ability.
Look at some of the comments. Guys stuck with one idea that they defend as if their erections depended on it....lol and goddess forgive me!!

Sloan Bashinsky
Heh, be careful you don’t get burned at a stake :-) 

A south Alabama belle graced me with this of hers a few years ago: 

 

“Pigs in mud”  

All want the security of the well fed pig.

Horror at the baseness unrecognized.

A lifetime spent in shirt stuffing.

And pen comparison.

Is truth more palatable when honeyed?

Is a stark soulscape less so with the eyes of Monet? 

May my affectations always be understood.  

 

Jon Carver
Since all the polls show that the vast majority of world Jews side with Israel and support Netanyahu's Amalek War,-genocide, according to what you've written here, the vast majority of Jews are "criminally insane". That's a strong, but accurate statement given the poll numbers. Jews are mostly criminally insane, as you put it. Vagina -Womb bearers are in no way superior to Penis and Testes People. That's called Sexist Bullshit. Stop with the Male Hating and misandry please. It a form of bigotry. People are people. Stop obsessing about gender and genitals. It's creepy and sexist. 
 
Sloan Bashinsky
You continue to twist what I write. Good thing I wrote it, which left a record simply speaking would not. :-) Didn’t you tell God to suck your dick?

sloanbashinsky@yahoo.com

The solution to what’s going on in Palestine, and everywhere else on this world, is God delivers a massive estrogen injection into humanity

 

     The other day, a fellow in my class at Crestline Elementary School, in the “poor” side of Mountain Book, aka The Tiny Kingdom, weighed in on the The war in Gaza drove a lot of people more loco than they already were post.

Peter Rodes Robinson

Have we met? Your name is vaguely familiar to my memory challenged 81-year-old brain. I have lived in Charlottesville and Birmingham.

I generally agree with Caitlin. I was shocked by what Hamas did, but Israel has killed 20 times as many and that's only if you don't count the 7000 decaying bodies under the rubble of Gaza.

Israel is clearly committing countless war crimes. The October 7th attack by Hamas is not clearly a war crime. Occupied peoples are recognized to have a right to resist.

Sloan Bashinsky

If you lived in Birmingham, you may have heard my family’s name, Bashinsky, and you and I might have met, as I am 81 also. I attended Cestitine Heights Elementary School, and then Ramsay High School, before going to school out of state. 

I know the casualty and prisoner statistics, more or less. Caitlin Johnstone, Chris Hedges, you, others, can call it what y'all want to call it, but we wouldn’t be having this discussion if Hamas had not made the Oct 7 raid, and it looks to me that the point of that raid was to get Israel to respond as it did, and here we are, and I’m never going to cut Hamas a millimeter of slack, nor do I cut Israel a millimeter of slack. Saying it another way, If I lived in Gaza, and was still breathing, I’d be furious with Hamas for the Oct 7 attack, and I’d be furious with Israel for its response, and I’d be furious with Hamas for not offering to return all of its Oct 7 hostages, if Israel would stop bombing Gaza and bring its army back to Israel.

Peter Rodes Robinson

I was at Crestline School from January 1950 to May 1955. We moved to Forest Park that summer. In 1957 I entered Indian Springs School. My brother Barry attended Ramsey, but he was four years younger.

Israel is holding some 2000 Palestinians WITHOUT CHARGE. Shouldn't Israel let them all go in return for the hundred or so Israeli hostages? That's the standard ratio, BTW. One Israeli is worth 20 Palestinians.

Sloan Bashinsky

I remember you, Peter. I think Israel and Hamas should exchange hostages and promise in writing to never bother each other again, and be struck by lightning and crispy-crittered by God and Allah, if they renege:-)

Peter Rodes Robinson

From your lips to god's ears!

But there is a problem. The leadership of Israel wants ALL OF THE LAND with zero Palestinian refugees.

Sloan Bashinsky

My dystopian solution for a while has been for Israel to detonate its nukes and make all of Palestine uninhabitable and there will be no more so-called holy land for Judaism, Christianity and Islam to fight over.

Peter Rodes Robinson

My father True was in the Air Force reserves and he used to bring home movies of thermonuclear bomb explosions. I loved these! These "hydrogen bomb" explosions were so much bigger and more spectacular than atom bomb blasts, pure fission bombs such as we used on Japan.

What if God is the same way? Loving the spectacle!

Sloan Bashinsky

My father was a navigator-bombardier on a B-29 stationed in Guam. They flew night missions to Japan, to drop conventional bombs. He kept getting his B-29 lost over the Pacific and they had to ditch their payload in the sea and return to Guam. His soul didn’t like killing people he did not see or know.

Meanwhile, I keep playing the broken record. Either Hamas is run by idiots, or the Oct 7 attack got the precise response from Israel it wanted, so that the entire world would turn against Israel, except for America it is turning out, because half or America wants Israel to defend the so-called holy land from Islam. It’s a religious war, and it’s been going on a long time, according to their scriptures.

Peter Rodes Robinson

"Our goal is to rid Gaza of Hamas terrorists and free our hostages. Once this is achieved Gaza can be demilitarized and deradicalized, thereby creating a possibility for a better future for Israel and Palestinians alike," Netanyahu continued on X.

So far Israel has freed one hostage by force and 110 through negotiation (and killed three with "friendly fire"). They have made no discernable impact on the ability of Hamas to function.

If you believe Netanyahu about his goals, then Israel's military operation in Gaza has been a total failure.

But what if the announced goals are merely a distraction, a cover for the true goal of making Gaza Uninhabitable. Then Israel seems to be performing quite well.

Sloan Bashinsky

The Oct 7 attack punched every last button in Israel’s leaders and military, they went insane, and that is what Hamas hoped would happen, and here we are. Giving Hamas a free pass, and laying all the fault on Israel and America is what Hamas hoped would happen. I see no way Israel could defeat Hamas in Gaza, and Israel learned that pretty quick after sending in the IDF. Caitlin Johnstone, Chris Hedges, etc. are doing Hamas’ public relations work for Hamas. The whole thing disgusts me, but giving Hamas a free pass is unconscionable. As is what Israel has done in Gaza. The Gaza civilians meant nothing to Hamas. Its objective was and is to defeat Israel on the world stage. How it all will end, or pause, is unknown. I hope Israel doesn’t become so deranged, or feel so threatened, that it uses its nukes against its enemies to the east. 

Peter Rodes Robinson

How does blaming or not blaming Hamas change anything?

I agree with you that Israel is reacting the way Hamas hoped.

Sloan Bashinsky

it is really important to humanity, and to the truth, that it be known that what happened in Gaza after Oct 7 was what Hamas hoped would happen; that Oct 7 was clever bait, which Israel swallowed hook, line and sinker. That has to be laid face up on the table top in any negotiations. Both Hamas and Israel need to be tarred and feathered on the world stage. And America should lead that charge, but I doubt it will. If I were president, I would be leading that charge, and I probably would be assassinated pronto, by Americans :-)

Peter Rodes Robinson

I think what you describe here is the truth. But what does it matter?

More and more I ignore what is being said, and just look at what is being done. Israel is committing daily war crimes. Do they get a pass because Hamas baited them?

Sloan Bashinsky

Hell no, Israel doesn’t get a pass! Before God, Israel is already judged. So is Hamas. But who judges and punishes them on this world? The UN has no power to do anything. So all that’s left is the court of public opinion. Caitlin and Chris Hedges, and 99.99 percent of their readers condemn Israel and give Hamas a pass. That’s nuts.

Peter Rodes Robinson

I call Gaza a "concentration camp." What do you think?

Sloan Bashinsky

It became one after the Oct 7 attack, and it became a Dresden, because the people had no place to go after Egypt turned them down. Hamas knew what it would be like in Gaza, if Israel took the bait. So, Hamas was the architect of Gaza becoming a concentration camp. 

Peter Rodes Robinson

Ah! We disagree. I say Gaza has always been a concentration camp.

>a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution. The term is most strongly associated with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe in 1933–45, among the most infamous being Dachau, Belsen, and Auschwitz.

Sloan Bashinsky

You didn’t watch “Schindler's List”? That was about a concentration camp. The Jews in the camp, who were not able to help Germany’s war effort were burned alive in ovens. The survivors were fed very short rations. They had body lice. If they tried to escape, they were killed. If they pissed off a German officer, they were killed. That’s how it was in all of Nazi Germany’s concentration camps. Jews all over Western Europe were rounded up and sent to those camps. The Jews in my father’s ancestral bloodline, who had not come to America, all were put in those camps and died there. I can’t believe you and I had the same history teachers at Crestline, and you say Gaza was a concentration camp before Oct 7. 

Peter Rodes Robinson

I gave you the definition. In what way does Gaza not match the definition?

Jews are not the sole possessors of the term "concentration camp".

And I say what is happening in Gaza is a "holocaust".

destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war.

"a nuclear holocaust"

  

Peter Rodes Robinson

Hamas is more popular than the PLA among rank and file Palestinians, because Hamas fights the occupiers while the PLA collaborates. 

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514

Sloan Bashinsky

Look at how being in bed with Hamas turned out for the people of Gaza. Be careful who you sleep with? You might end up dead.

Peter Rodes Robinson

And yet they prefer Hamas to the PA. One might think they agree with New Hampshire:

LIVE FREE OR DIE

Sloan Bashinsky

Perhaps, then, they should be allowed to experience that on their own terms and it be respected by the likes of Caitlin, Chris Hedges, you and me and the UN?

Peter Rodes Robinson

I don't understand.

Sloan Bashinsky

Live free, or die. If that was their choice, if the people of Gaza understood the risk of aligning with Hamas, then who is anyone to argue with or second guess them? Now, Hamas, I think it and its leaders are gonna be really surprised when their rolls are called up yonder, as will Israel’s leaders and the IDF, as will a lot of people.

Peter Rodes Robinson

It seems that you are the one second-guessing the Gazans. Seems like you are saying, "You people are making a big mistake, if you support Hamas."

I'm saying:

"I completely understand your frustration and your determination to be free, even if the cost is very high."

Sloan Bashinsky

I said nothing of the kind. Read again what I wrote. How it turned out for the people of Gaza was determined by Hamas and Israel. 

Peter Rodes Robinson

And, ironically, the Gazans seem to approve of how it has turned out, since approval of Hamas has risen.

Do you agree?

Sloan Bashinsky

Well, if the Gazans approval of Hamas has risen, why is anyone upset with Israel doing Hamas’ bidding in Gaza?

Peter Rodes Robinson

Because Israel has created the situation where the only conceivable path to freedom requires that tens of thousands of Palestinians die.

I personally believe this is the only path to freedom. That judgment of reality does not require that I approve of daily war crimes.

The world must stop approving of Israel and condemning the Palestinians. What we are seeing now is a step along that path.

Sloan Bashinsky

The world needs to stop approving of Israel and Hamas, and maybe the people of Gaza will benefit from that, and maybe not. Palestine is much larger than Gaza, and there are other radical Islamic factions vying for big dog there. Mixing that up with a solution for Gaza, won’t help produce a solution in Gaza.

Peter Rodes Robinson

Please give concrete examples.

Sloan Bashinsky

I just did give you concrete examples. Gaza is not Palestine. it is a small part of Palestine. Hamas is in Gaza. Deal with that. Forget the rest. Maybe that will lead to a cease fire in Gaza.

Peter Rodes Robinson

2,375,259 Palestinians in Gaza

2,747,943 Palestinians in West Bank

https://youtu.be/Ru49O7oSBIk?si=V4AvdQNH3QuxX5od

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-minister-says-no-such-thing-palestinian-people-2023-03-20/

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/palestinians-dont-exist-smotrich-only-repeats-zionists-always-said

Sloan Bashinsky

Peter, the mistake of creating the nation called Israel will haunt humanity for a very long time. Regardless of what is reported, or not reported, said, or not said, the cause of what’s going on in the Middle East is the scriptures of the three Abrahamic religions. Good luck fixing that :-). This morning, after a dream about what I took to be the feminine essence, or, the Holy Spirit, which Christendom does not recognize as the feminine side of God, I posted. this comment under Caitlin and Chris Hedges’s newest reports.

"Three nights before 9/11, a familiar voice asked me in my sleep, “Will you. make a prayer for a Divine Intervention for all of humanity?” I woke up, wondering what that was about, and made the prayer. On 9/11, I understood what it was about. My lady friend at the time and I hoped America would not get into another foreign war it could not win. A few days later, as I walked out of a US Post Office, the familiar voice said “America needs to get out of the Middle East altogether and let Islam and Israel work it out, or fight it out, and in that way learn which, if either, is God’s chosen people. I then watched America get into two foreign wars it could not win. And nearly into several more. And now another looms. It looks to me that the only cure is America, and the world, receive huge injections of estrogen, psychologically and spiritually. Without that , nothing will change in America, the Middle East, the world - humanity."

Peter Rodes Robinson

The problem is 5 million stateless Palestinians. I will post my solution later.

You might want to think about what is your solution.

Sloan Bashinsky

I have thought for a very long time what is the solution, and in the human realm, it is America gets out of the Middl East altogether, and deals with the many problems within its own borders, the beams in its own eyes, which is what Jesus in the Gospels recommended. As for fixing what’s going on in Palestine, I hope you have a viable solution, because I do not, other than a massive estrogen injection by God. 

Peter Rodes Robinson

I'll give you a hint: my solution does not employ violence.

Sloan Bashinsky

Neither does a massive estrogen injection. So, Peter, what is your solution?

Peter Rodes Robinson

I see one possible solution: the world should buy a country for the Palestinians.

It would not be cheap. Rebuilding Gaza after Israel destroys it will also not be cheap, but the world will pay for it. Here is my proposal.

Buy a poorly developed part of Sudan bordering Egypt with a size roughly equivalent to Israel. Include an outlet to the Red Sea. 

Sudan is one of the poorest countries in the world with a GDP of approximately $34 billion. It is located in the same general part of the world as Gaza but far enough away from Israel. The no-longer-stateless Palestinians would not try to launch rockets across Egypt.

Price? Offer to permanently redirect the aid that the US gives Israel (approximately $4 billion per year) and give it to Sudan instead.

Enlist a coalition of nations to build a new Palestine in the area that was part of Sudan. The US can contribute the money it would otherwise spend rebuilding all the buildings and infrastructure in Gaza that Israel has turned into rubble. Israel can rebuild Gaza.

Sloan Bashinsky

Thank you. 

Do you think the Palestinians and Hamas and Hezbollah, ISIS, PLA, Iran. etc.might say, buy that land for Israel and we will stay in Palestine? Do you think Islam will ever agree to the State of Israel being in Palestine? Do you think the Palestinians or Israel will agree to leave their ancestral holy land? I doubt it, but if they did, either the Palestinians or Israel moving to Sudan could the solution, for a while. I hope you will post your solution into Caitlin’s and Chris Hedges’s forums. 

The solution I proposed several times is, America offers all Israelis sanctuary in America, to repent for not doing that after WWII, and to resolve the problem of Israel being in the heart of islam. I doubt America would go for it, though, and I doubt Israel would go for it, either. The American right want Israel where it is, defending Christendom’s holy land from Islam. Donald Trump told Israel he is their best friend, hoping to the vote of every Jew and conservative Christian in America.

Peter Rodes Robinson
One of the reasons for the October 7th attack was that the Arab world was getting much too cozy with Israel to suit Hamas. The Arab world would not be the sticking point.
Would the Palestinians go for it? The alternative is death by famine and disease in Gaza or settler gunfire in the West Bank.

Sloan Bashinsky
Like I said, I hope you post your solution into the Caitlin and Hedges forums. Perhaps, Hedges, at least, being a retired respected war correspondent, who put his life on the line many times in war zones, who was a close friend of Hama’s founder, Ahmed Yassin, has enough clout to get the people in Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, the White House, etc. high places' attention?

Peter Rodes Robinson

One of the reasons for the October 7th attack was that the Arab world was getting much too cozy with Israel to suit Hamas. The Arab world would not be the sticking point.
Would the Palestinians go for it? The alternative is death by famine and disease in Gaza or settler gunfire in the West Bank. 

Sloan Bashinsky
I dunno. Maybe if you open the door to various points of debate, that’s a death knell. Maybe you just present it as you presented it to me and see what comes back, and retire and think about how to respond, or simply point them back to your solution. You see very well how easy it is for people to wander away from the main point. 

 

Peter Rodes Robinson
How about a very short intro?
One must wonder how many decades people will cling to the vision of a two-state solution for the Israelis and the Palestinians while the facts on the ground move continually in the other direction. Nor is a one-state solution any more possible. Time for a new idea.

Sloan Bashinsky
Agreed. I think any responses to your proposal will reveal what many I have discussed this with at the Hedges and Caitlin forums have denied, which is this a religious war, and its not going to go away, so why not try something pragmatic to try to do an end run around it. 

 

Peter Rodes Robinson
I'll post a slightly revised version here later today.

Sloan Bashinsky
Post it at the top of Caitlin’s newest Gaza war report, so it will be at the top and have more chance to be read. Send it to me and I will repost it at the top of Hedges’s next report. 

sloanbashinsky@yahoo.com