Although the Bible says fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, religious fundamentalists are certain they represent God and have nothing to fear in the afterlife, including how they viewed abortion

    After fellow named Noel starred in yesterday's Imagine an American president who survived St. John of the Cross's dark night and black nights of the soul and then he married the Hindu Goddess Kali, who does not like how men think post, this happened:

Noel 

If the contingence of religion is evolution, and the contingence of evolution is survival, than why are martyrs willing to die for it, especially people like the 12 apostles who didn’t die pretty deaths.

 

Sloan Bashinsky

I think if the angels take you under their wings, you will develop an entirely different way of thinking, perceiving and wondering. The Apostles and later saints in Christendom, and people who were not recognized as saints, but were shanghaied by God nonetheless, do not ask the kind of questions you ask. They are up to their eyeballs in trying to cope with and live what is on their plates every day, knowing they will face a reckonning for it in this life, or later.

Noel

You’re certainly a very interesting person I’m glad we’ve met.

Sloan Bashinsky

I think I probably am an experiment angels initiated. I have seen angels attempt similar for a few people I knew well and for a man I met briefly.

 

Noel Sanchez

I would be careful, it’s very easy for satan to seem like an angel of light.  

Sloan Bashinsky

You are correct. In fact, in the fall of 1995, I was told by Archangel Michael in my sleep, "It is very easy to mistake Lucifer for the Holy Spirit." I got to where when I went into churches, I felt the palpable presence of Evil. Not a day passes when I don' t fret about crossing God and coming under the sway of Lucifer. I have done that enough times, and been rescued from it enough times by angels, to know just how easy it is to duped by Lucifer. For a fact, the American left is infiltrated by a demon. For a fact, the American right is infiltrated by a demon. Neither side can be convinced of it, though.

    Then this happened on Substack, in which Noel also starred:

Ol’ Flawriduh Cracker
Writes My Two Senses
The problem it seems to me is that far too many people believe in the supernatural. Fundamentally I see it is little more than an evolutionary propensity aimed at filling the millions of gaps we experience that are inhabited with fear, anxiety, and trying to insure our visualizations of the future (hope).
The real tragedy is that too many people long ago discovered that exploitation of people is readily achieved in the universal grift of religion. Some prefer to remain largely passive, but Christianity and Muslim creeds are especially malignant and dangerous at almost any scale.
It can be a hick church of Snake handlers in Tennessee or hundreds of thousands circling the holy site in Mecca. The power to make people risk a toxic snake bite or to travel thousands of miles are but, small examples.
This propensity for mass self delusion to willing acceptance of murdering others will be our undoing.

Sloan Bashinsky
I know for a fact that the supernatural exists and am reminded of the Old Testament admonition that fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom, to which I add, fear of the Devil also is wise, yet religious fundamentalists are convinced they represent and speak for and are ordained by God, and nothing you or I say can sway them out of that.
There was a man in Acts of the Apostles, named Saul of Tarsus. He was a Jewish Pharisee. He was convinced hunting down Christians and ratting them out to the Roman authorities, who gave them the option of renouncing Jesus or being executed, was God's work and will. While Saul was about that mission on the road to Damascus, Jesus appeared to him out of nowhere and asked him, "Saul, why do you persecute me?" Saul was knocked off his horse and was blinded and spent a long time getting his thinking and behaving straightened out, and becoming Paul.
It can't be proven today that that actually happened, and I would be insane if I thought I, or anyone, could prove it happened. I simply use the road to Damascus report as a way of saying that what happened to Saul is the only way religious fundamentalists, or anybody for that matter, can be reached and changed. That is not speculation, because that is how I was reached and changed. Yet, I did not become anything like Paul in his letters in the New Testament. 
I do not preach that the only way to God is through believing Jesus was the son of God, who died on the cross for the sins of anyone who believes in him, even 2,000 years later. If Christians today took to heart what Jesust in the Gospels taught, they would not judge anyone but themselves. They would not point the finger at anyone but themselves. They would be terrified of crossing God, and even more terrified of being taken over unawares by the Devil.
That is the cross every Christian is invited to pick up and carry. That cross is not offered to the followers of Moses and Mohammed. Not in this life, anyway. Karma is very real. Jesus in the Gospels said, as you sow, so shall you reap. He knew very well of the reckoning each departing soul faces in the afterlife. Unfortunately, religious fundamentalists do not worry about that reckoning, because they are certain they represent God and have nothing to fear. 

Noel 
Especially the 60 million babies we’ve killed via abortion.

The resurrection is an event that would validate divine revelation. You say if we were to interpret the gospel correctly we would judge ourselves Akon, but how many times has Jesus judged others. He called the Pharisees fools and hypocrites, announced that one of the apostles were the devil. Surely if we are to be holy as God is holy we would follow this example.
Freemasons can be problematic for a few reasons: if there are multiple legitimate pathways to Hod outside of the Church, then to what extent are these claims valid. Clearly Islam doesn’t agree with Christianity or Buddhism, but Freemason logic would ignore these disagreements. Picking select claims from certain religions to conclude that all, or multiple, religions are true is problematic. 

Sloan Bashinsky
The resurrection was a near-death experience, which many people in the 20th Century and later reported having. Jesus was well aware that he would be judged for his accusations, and he made them anyway, because they were true. God is in every religion, and the task is to find God there, if you belong to a religion. The Devil is pleased to help you found something you think is God, but isn't. That's also true of Free Masons, and of any religious or spiritual system. God is beyond all of that. 

You seem knowledgeable about many areas of the religious landscape, but I do not sense that you have been harnessed and put to the plow by something much bigger and smarter than yourself. I do not see you sharing anything about how God deals with you, about you. You seem totally outward focused. I was shown, by it being done to me, that is necessary to stand before endless mirrors looking at myself, and there were and still are refresher courses. 
Regarding killing babies, in Genesis, Adam became a living being when God breathed into his nostrils. Since antiquity, women used herbs made by God, or by Mother Nature, if you prefer, to prevent getting pregnant and to end pregnancy. That was common practice in Colonial America, evidenced by Benjamin Franklin explaining it in his book, The American Instructor. What happened to change that common practice? Religious fundamentalists is what happened. They overruled God, and now they control the U.S. Supreme Court, which pleases the Devil very much. 

What people who don't like abortion should do is volunteer to adopt babies of mothers who do not want to have them, and to financially support women who forego abortion and have their babies.
Anti-abortionists will be asked in the afterlife, why they did not do that, and they then might then learn that their next adventure is to be a fetus in an unwilling mother who will abuse her baby she does not want, or who is an alcoholic or drug addict, and her fetus will be born dependent on her drug of choice and go straight into the DTs after taking the first breath of life.

Noel
I’m not a fundamentalist, I simply understand that abortion is murder. A fetus has human DNA, and so it has natural rights like the rest of us. Out of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, the most important one of these is life because we have no rights at all if we can’t live. The contingence of rights is one’s humanity, and one’s humanity is not contingent upon one’s effectiveness or ability to experience, rather that we are made in the image and likeness of God. Contingent upon the fact that we have a rational will and intellect and that is of utter high value.
Adoption is a clearly virtuous thing, anyone who has adopted children should be acknowledged for. There are situations however where adoption would not be the best thing to do, it might not be financially responsible at all to adopt a child. Regardless of what your circumstance is, the immorality of abortion still holds. We agree that crime is immoral, it would be morally expedient to become a police officer so that crime might become less prevalent. Regardless of whether you choose to become a police officer or not, crime is still immoral. So too is the killing of innocent babies for a convenience, despite people’s choice to be morally expedient or not.

Sloan Bashinsky
Do you, does anyone, know when a soul attaches to a fetus? For, yes, it is fetuses you are calling babies. And you presume to tell women, who bear fetuses to term, what is right for them. What about women's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Oh, that was only given to men in so-called Declaration of Independence. Women had no rights then, in America, according to the Declaration of Independence. Yet, the fact remains, since antiquity, women used herbs made by God, thus approved by God, to abort fetuses. They did it during Jesus's time in the Gospels. They did it in Colonial America -until religious fundamentalists gained control. No man, except the father of an unborn, has standing to speak for what a mother should do with her unwanted unborn. It's between her and God, what she does. 

I could think what drives you to be so sure about your "pro-life" stance is, in your youth you were abused, you felt threatened, unwanted, spiritually murdered; you had no choice in the matter, and now you identify with unwanted unborn children, and that has become a crusade for you. That might not be the case with you, but it is what drives most "pro-lifers".

Looks like even red states are passing abotion rights amendments to their state constitutions. https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/abortion-rights-supporters-rack-up-victories-putting-gop-in-bind-for-2024-4bec7b38 

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